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Old 11-10-2007, 12:42 PM   #1
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Steering Rod Bushings

After seeing quite a few cars with excessive wear on the inner bushings I decided it was time to work on a replacement. The factory bushings are only available with the arms $$$.. Well a few hours in the machine shop and a little urethane later i had some decent prototypes to try.

I decided to install them in my Viggen since it has about 20K miles no wear was expected. I found a decent about of wear on the factory bushings which was a little amazing in this short time. Many of the higher mileage cars are far worse.

The actual install was pretty easy took a leisurely 30 min. Basic hand tools. I used a long 10mm bolt and a 34mm 1/2" drive socket to pull the old bushings from the arms. This is probably not necessary for the higher mileage cars. Installation was very easy once the old ones were out. I did it with the car on the ground making it a little harder than necessary since it was difficult to turn the tires. It took a helper to get the arms aligned and the bolts into the steering gear. Used a little thread locker there too just as a precaution.
Initial feelings are improved on center feel and less of the mushy steering response. I will see after the road trip to StLouis tomorrow. We will see how these hold up and go to production after that.

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I was wondering about something like that! I'm replacing the steering rods/ends on Wednesday. Guess I will wait for the bushings to come out. I'd love to be a test dummy though.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:02 PM   #3
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Hey nice one NickT!

I've had mine on for about a year now. I stole the idea from Kevin Yankton's old project.

I used powerflex bushings from a Ford 150 application. I had to cut them down a little bit, with an exacto. With a drill press (no bit) I was able to pop them into the arms (and the old ones out). I would echo that the steering response was much improved! My old ones were quite worn (~150k).

These are really a must have... for the price (even TBD) I'm sure they will be a very cost effective upgrade.


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After seeing quite a few cars with excessive wear on the inner bushings I decided it was time to work on a replacement. The factory bushings are only available with the arms $$$.. Well a few hours in the machine shop and a little urethane later i had some decent prototypes to try.

I decided to install them in my Viggen since it has about 20K miles no wear was expected. I found a decent about of wear on the factory bushings which was a little amazing in this short time. Many of the higher mileage cars are far worse.

The actual install was pretty easy took a leisurely 30 min. Basic hand tools. I used a long 10mm bolt and a 34mm 1/2" drive socket to pull the old bushings from the arms. This is probably not necessary for the higher mileage cars. Installation was very easy once the old ones were out. I did it with the car on the ground making it a little harder than necessary since it was difficult to turn the tires. It took a helper to get the arms aligned and the bolts into the steering gear. Used a little thread locker there too just as a precaution.
Initial feelings are improved on center feel and less of the mushy steering response. I will see after the road trip to StLouis tomorrow. We will see how these hold up and go to production after that.

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Hey nice one NickT!

I've had mine on for about a year now. I stole the idea from Kevin Yankton's old project.

I used powerflex bushings from a Ford 150 application. I had to cut them down a little bit, with an exacto. With a drill press (no bit) I was able to pop them into the arms (and the old ones out). I would echo that the steering response was much improved! My old ones were quite worn (~150k).

These are really a must have... for the price (even TBD) I'm sure they will be a very cost effective upgrade.


Keep it up NickT
could you pm with the name of the bushing you used? thanks
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My Sunbird had the exact same problem. Moog makes a poly inner bushing kit for about $10, it works fantastic. I'd suspect that the kit for the US-model J cars may just be a direct fit for NG-900's.
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Wow. Wish they had been done already .



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someone should buy an a kit for an 81-94 sunbird or cavalier and see if they are the same, the things are super cheap...

Tie Rod Bushing, High Quality Original Equipment Replacement
Fits: FRONT Steering, Inner, Kit, Problem Solver, Including 2 piece design bushing and lock plate.
Your Price $17.44
http://www.thepartsbin.com/sitemap/p...ing~parts.html
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someone should buy an a kit for an 81-94 sunbird or cavalier and see if they are the same, the things are super cheap...

Tie Rod Bushing, High Quality Original Equipment Replacement
Fits: FRONT Steering, Inner, Kit, Problem Solver, Including 2 piece design bushing and lock plate.
Your Price $17.44
http://www.thepartsbin.com/sitemap/pontiac~tie_rod_bushing~parts.html
Damn, at that price someone should check it out...they do look remarkably similar, even if it wasn't a drop in application, you might be able to get it to work w/o too much duress.

If I end up pulling my engine out this winter for some work, I might look into these.
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I have an extra set of steering rack arms handy if anyone local to me wants to check them out, or buy them to experiment with.

NickT, how long if you had to guess? A week? A month? 3 months?
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DeLorean that is some GREAT info! Makes complete sense that they would work! I am wondering if J-body uprated tie-rod ends would also fit...

I was talking w/ JK last night about this. I mentioned how Eric had aluminum bushings for his control arms and I thought why doesn't some body just make aluminum steering rack bushings? I doubt it would create much vibration though the wheel but help drastically in terms of response/feel.
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I’ve been happy with my aluminum control arm bushings. As far as I know no one else has them though, so unfortunately there aren’t any more opinions.

Aluminum steering bushings might work really well. There is still a hockey puck sized rubber disc attached to the center of the steering column. So even with aluminum bushings there would be some dampening.
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You need more freedom of movement there. The ideal would be spherical bearings with a teflon liner the problem is with the sizing of the bore. There is nothing close requiring a more complex design and mounting. This would add quite a bit to the cost.
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napa rack/rod bushes

these should work.
My price was ~$13.30
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Nick, How is this coming, I looked around the site but had no luck.

Actually nevermind, replace couldn't find with ordered a set.
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they are on his site for like 20 bucks under suspension
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