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Old 08-31-2007, 02:59 AM   #1
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Manifold Prototype

For all you that keep asking about it.. Making some good progress. Hopefully Jeremy can get one made and on my Vig soon. I can dyno both this and the log back to back on the same car just to quantify the difference. Then on to production downpipes. Best part is it uses an off the shelf turbo no mods. So much going on. Next is a T3 or T4 flange bigger runner for a 35/42 for the Nira 2.0





We had to move it just a little so it will still clear with the 30, got a little carried away making more space on the rear. Somewhere we gained an extra inch.

PS dave thats the Polydyn coating on the turbine.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:22 AM   #2
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Good stuff as always!
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:24 AM   #3
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Nice. hopefully we can all enjoy one of those soon.
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:43 AM   #7
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so that coating, it's like a jet-hot type deal or similar maybe?
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:32 AM   #8
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Looking quite nice. I'm pretty much a newb but have been wondering where all the aftermarket manifolds are.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:37 AM   #9
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Nick that is sexy! I talked to Dave on the phone today and he's REALLY looking forward to picking up his new car.

Can't wait to see the dyno results.

Did the PolyDyn coating guys do a good job? In my mind I wasn't thinking that it'd be gold...
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so that coating, it's like a jet-hot type deal or similar maybe?
http://www.polydyn.com/performance_coatings.htm

It's shop outside of Houston that's a little different than jet-hot in that it won't flake off, but same idea as a thermal barrier. They do work for NASA and low friction industrial stuff as well.

Nick is building a monster Viggen for a friend of mine, and it's something that he decided to try based-on my recommendation. I've actually never had anything done by them, but everything I've read says they're the best...Dave just beat me to it for trying it. I'm anxious to see the results; sure hope it's good stuff because I feel like I'm at least partially responsible for encouraging him to try it.
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Ok, that is sick. Nick, Damn you for making me want a 9-3 again!


That coating is interesting too. It makes the wrap I want to buy look like garbage.
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I am very jealous, I need to get back to my welding practice. It would be so nice to be able to make one... Butt welds here I come...

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hey nick. is that all welded up and done? i see the tack welds ( i think) what are the rest of the welds called? Also, is there some type of diagram of where all the pipes meet and come to the turbo? Just curious as to what all the edges are like in terms of flow
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:58 AM   #14
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nice work buddy :-)

it was really nice to see you at the show
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Ur gonna run internal?
There are plans for an external WG setup, right?
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It was only a matter of time, right?

That looks sweet, and I'm glad you are taking measures to also deal with the heat.

Keep us posted!!
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well for anything smaller than a 35 series turbo I really don't think you'd need to run an external gate since you'll be running "higher" boost.

That manifold does look nice. hopefully the cost will be reasonable, considering the extra modification that will be needed for the DP.

Top mounted the turbo will be alot easier to work on.
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Beautiful work. We're all looking forward to seeing the dyno results.

(I wasn't expecting the coating to be gold, either, but it looks good.)
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well for anything smaller than a 35 series turbo I really don't think you'd need to run an external gate since you'll be running "higher" boost.

That manifold does look nice. hopefully the cost will be reasonable, considering the extra modification that will be needed for the DP.

Top mounted the turbo will be alot easier to work on.

This is something I have been debating. I want to either go the internal waste-gate gt3076wg and mount it right to my stock 9k aero manifold or just go up to the t3 inlet gt3082 and make a tubular manifold with external waste-gate.

Your feelings are the gt3076wg would be fine as a internal waste-gate turbo capable of 500bhp? The main issue with the tubular manifolds is that they break or crack and that is something I would not want to deal with very often, sounds like a real pita and not worth it unless the improvement in holding high rpm boost is well worth it. Any opinions on this?

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JZW equal length tubing as you know means all the exhaust pulses travel the same distance and same timing which results in a much smoother flow rather than colliding with each other resulting in turbulence prior to hiting the turbine blade.

For high output high boost applications on a larger turbo an equal length tubular header is the way to go even if there is the risk of cracking and needing to replace it.



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