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Old 07-18-2007, 09:17 AM   #1
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i just put on my new TD04, and was wondering what i should get for oil. should i sick with dino oil for a while, or just go right into synthetic? and which weight should i get? it just seem that everyone is having oil problems and i just want to make sure i get the right kind and weight. thanks-Derek
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I use synthetic oil in my car. Mobil 1 10W40. I have good luck with it. My turbo is a-ok and no signs of sludge in the engine.

Stromer upgraded to TD04 about two years ago and as far as I recall, he also runs full synth. Can't say for sure about weight, though.
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I run Mobile 1 0W-40 in all my cars with no problems (every car has a turbo too).
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Just run the synth. You'd be a fool not to in a turbo car.
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Just run the synth. You'd be a fool not to in a turbo car.
Agreed. I prefer Elf Excellium 5W-40 LDX from Turbofrog Performance in New York. I've also used the Mobil 5W-40 and 0W-40 synthetic.
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you want to run reg. oil for the first 2,000 miles of turbo's life without boosting much. helps wear in the bearings and such. after that use synthetic.
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Please explain...if oils are of the same viscosity rating they will behave the same. How will a dino 10w40 'wear in' bearings any more than a 10w40 synthetic?
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Please explain...if oils are of the same viscosity rating they will behave the same. How will a dino 10w40 'wear in' bearings any more than a 10w40 synthetic?
Viscosity is just the molecules ability to not shear when under stress. what you are saying is like why run synthetic when it is the same as reg. oil. Id say that since the oil isn't cleaning the bearings like synthetic it is able to wear them in better. i have talked ot several turbo manufactures and they all said the same thing.
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Viscosity is just the molecules ability to not shear when under stress. what you are saying is like why run synthetic when it is the same as reg. oil.
Not quite what I was saying, it is similar to regular oil except it handles stress better, lasts longer, etc, even though it's not "slipperier" per se (afaik) - I don't think the oil itself will wear anything any more or less (well significantly anyway). I can see that argument with the detergents they put in it, but I doubt it will make a huge difference. Either way you'll probably be fine, doesn't matter that you'll be switching back to synth, you could switch from dino to syntetic and back again every oil change if you wanted to, won't hurt anything really.
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i use castrol syntec 10w 40 full sythetic...

different oil brands with the same weight arnt the same... break down differently like mobil 1 is known for sludge...
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Of course they aren't the same, but their viscosity at the standard temperatures that they measure them is.
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You do want to use a non-syn oil for engine break-ins for sure. Syn oils do lubricate better so the mating surfaces don't mate as you're seating your rings. Turbos? Don't know for sure.

I'm sure depending who you talk to you'll hear different things.
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i thought we were only supposed to use synthetic oil in or cars..
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http://216.219.217.96/break_in_secrets.htm

Check out the link above. It's about engine break-ins, but does discuss using dyno oil for the first few miles and why. Don't know if any of that applies to turbos though.
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well the turbo is used it has about 4k on it, so can i just run synthetic off the bat? and should i still have my mbc on the with the TD04?
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dont know about the oil issue.. but you can run the MBC if you want, i ran it for about a week, it ran a bit rich but thats not a bad thing but it doesnt hurt to run apc, iv got that right now and its funny to watch the ecu deal with the added air, you basically get alot of boost fluctuation, i think i hit fuel cut ones but it wasnt to bad, it was no differnt then hitting it with a MBC. Are you planning on getting software for the TD04? if so you might just want to keep the stock APC hoses in place so you dont have to change them back when swapping the ecu. It seems like the stock ecu can handle the greater air because it still adjusts boost/timming based on knock, otherwise you still are fairly safe with the MBC because the ecu simply riches out because it cant adjust the boost and acomidates that by running rich. its really just opinion and how much risk for power you want.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:31 AM   #18
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yes i am planning on getting software, but for now i just dont have the money so i planned on my mbc+a for a liitle fun when i want to pull, but other than that i will ake it easy one the cara nd the turbo till i get the right software.
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