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9000 redbox questions
Hey yall. Found a redbox for my 9000. Supposed to be from a carlesson. Will it fit my 92. Anyone know what they run boost wise.
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If it's made for a '91 it can be used on the '92, but the one made for the '90 can't be (can't be used on the '91 either). Supposedly 20 addt'l hp. Not sure on boost.
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90, 91 and 92 9000 T's are all very different, and likely a "redbox" (DI/APC) won't interchange between any of them.
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The '91 and '92 will. There's enough "sameness" between the 2 to use the same box for DI/APC control.
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137007611 is the serial. I'm told its 91-92. Can anyone help me check up on that. Also don't some company still manufacture after market red boxes.
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Didn't know how to look that up. I would guess they are the same. But its just a guess. I don't know that tcs and apc interface . My turbo has never cut back when tcs comes on it just pulls me across a couple of lanes
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Heellllllp. So they had a tuned apc in the carlesson.91 and 92 are the same. Ray is right as usual. Anyone know more before I get it. I guess it automatic 20 horse gain. Anyone know about tuning a 92 evidence
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ecu my b not evidence
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go the route i'm going and t5 that bitch in the spring...
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I think I know where you're getting the box. I DID come across something interesting when I did a Google search. It said 220 hp when using 98 octane! Now it's possible that European octane ratings are different than ours but I'm not sure about that.
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Ah. You know its probably the way to go but I Like playing with hard parts more than software.
I know that's not true to t5 just the way I feel. Tryin to keep her old as I can. |
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get a 86-90 then that way you're playing with a true c9000 with a b202 in it instead of the odd ball of a b234 thats in these 91-93's
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Hey. Don't wanna be a Dick but chill out on dissing 91s and 92s
My opinion which is just an opinion is these are the best ones made. |
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and the reason i hate on 92' is the same reason everybody else does. TCS. another reason to t5 that bitch |
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i think a piped 91 can eat any t5 car. you t5ing a 91?? if so thats not cool. tcs is tollerable you dont have a vac leak and clear your codes before your car shits out you dont have a problem. its nice to avoid tcs but its not what people think.
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I have 91 and am t5ing it for numerous reasons. first PO took the damned engine bay harness and i can't find another. second i have an aero turbo and need to tune the car accordingly.
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Just got a hacked apc. Come get that and my 91 I'm kinda sad to hear you are turning a 91 into like a 94 or some shit. You get your tdo4 lines yet. I still gotta get some. We should drag this spring. Prob won't happen but would be sick.
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I'm getting a red box for my baby (92) like ray said plus 20 HP. But just the otherday I got a hacked apc control boosted to 15 psi. With rpm switch. I guess it flies.
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