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Old 07-07-2009, 06:59 AM   #1
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2000 9-5 FMIC install (with pictures)

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I want to keep AC, so I guess my main question is:
are the line flexible-enough to push the condenser back to the radiator, and put the IC out front?


I had seen on SC, where someone had cut the ends off their stock IC to support the condenser, but I'm hoping I can push it back to make space, and not have a zero-pressure area ahead of the radiator.

Has anyone had luck pushing the thing back?

I'm hoping to get this done this week, while I'm replacing the oil cooler I mangled.


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it has a FMIC....

if you want a aftermarket one i know GS sells one as far as ebay intercoolers it will need some modification due to the way the condenser, intercooler, and rad are stacked, obviously
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Placing an intercooler behind the AC condenser of a car that uses the AC all the time might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a SAAB.

In either case, I have a leaking IC, spare IC's and pipes, a back-up car, and some time.
I'd like to get the IC I have, in there, but I just needed to know if the AC condensor can move at all, or if it's pretty well "stuck" where it is?

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you might be able to bend it and fit a intercooler between the condenser and bumper

good luck!
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Just buy the ETS intercooler. Its your best option. or you can hack something together. If you remove the intercooler from the stock location theres about 2.5 inches you can play with. You would have to figure a new mount system for the condenser as it is mounted to the stock intercooler.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:50 AM   #6
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Making a bracket's easy.
I'm not worried about that.
I can cut the pipes, and make a decent IC setup for cheap, too.

Dropping $600 on an IC doesn't do it for me.
Especially since I have spares, sitting in my garage.
I appreciate the advice, though.
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also the placement of the a/c dryer is going to make your life harder
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Bought one off of ebay and fitted it myself infront of my A/C condensor..wasn't that bad.
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^ well there ya go
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I also just replaced my A/C condensor and Radiator...when I mounted the fmic I used the mounts from the horns and u relocated both horns. The thing you have to double check is that all the piping are tight.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:56 AM   #11
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check the pics on my thread on how to mount a 600x300x76mm IC in front of the stack. not too tough a job.
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:13 PM   #12
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I forget the size of my IC
I think it's 8x25 or something?

in either case, I pulled the oil-cooler down, and removed the a/c condensor from the IC, and lowered it.

Truthfully, the MAIN motivation here, was that my car slipped off the jack a while ago, and it crushed my oil cooler, condenser, and IC.
the condensor holds pressure fine, but the oil cooler was completely crushed (not leaking), and the IC bent pretty well, and I'm like 97.34% sure I have a leak in the stocker.

So, I have the stock IC removed, and the condenser against the radiator, it gives the extra 2" or so that I needed. I've gone ahead, and drilled holes in the header-panel to insert bolts to hold the spring-loaded brackets that hold the radiator in. (they rely on the rad, and IC to pre-load the spring.... no IC = sad bracket, and floppy Rad.

I made a quick bracket for the passenger-side, and the driver's side is turning out to be a PITA, since I don't have a vice to bend the 1/8" steel.
bending them with your hands is fun, but it never comes out perfect.


here's my bent stock IC:



my muckled oil cooler.


My new holes in the header panel:


little bracket, using original holes:



Once I clean it up, I'll take better pictures.
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Wow you really did a number on those with the jack. Are you going to post pictres of the IC mounted?
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Yeah... go big, or go home,right?

It fell because I had the E-brake on, and my floor isn't smooth(cinder block floor)
when you jack up a car, something has to move(the car, or the jack), and neither could.
I was walking away to grab the jack-stands, and it came crashing down.

when I got back under to see what happened, the jack was raised, and the oil cooler, and condenser looked like they did all they could to keep it from falling.

oh well...
Everyone makes mistakes, right?

this way, I get a nice front-mount out of the deal
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(sorry for the crappy pictures. the license plate was throwing off the camera)

where I had it mounted first, was a little too low.


so, I moved it up an inch:





Pushing back the condenser made PLENTY of room:




The biggest modification I've had to do was cut these brackets:


Tomorrow, I'll get the oil cooler mounted up, and then saturday, I'll make the pipes.


Before it goes all back together, I'm going to REALLY clean it up, tuck everything in, and do something similar to Nick's intake.
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all done! sort of.
I had to find a temporary fix because I forgot that I gave some of my couplers, and bends to Jesse, but it's together how I want it. I'll be ordering the correct black couplers from SIS, monday.

So, I still don't know what size the IC was.
I think I remember it being 24x9x2.5
so, when all was done, I was able to use the stock rubber hose from the turbo to IC inlet, and then I just cut up some pipes I had kicking around, for the IC outlet, to the upper IC pipe.

looks good!

I had to bend some brackets to hang the IC, and bend brackets to hang the oil cooler, but everything went back together the same way it came apart!

if anyone wants instructions, or more details, PLEASE let me know. I'll be happy to share.
here's a couple quick pictures.





here it is, assembled, but with the bumper cover off.



This is the part I have to "fix" next week.
A section of straight pipe, and a coupler will do it juuuuuuust fine!

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