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Old 06-17-2009, 07:48 AM   #1
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do I REALLLLLLLLLY need the new lines for the td04?

Going from a gt17 to a td04... I've read in some places that you can just do some creative twists and be good to go.

Return line, I know can be "fixed", but the feed mentions being different.

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Old 06-17-2009, 07:53 AM   #2
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The only difference, at least from the t25 to the td04, is the oil return line which is a different size. Other than that, you will need some crush washers but you dont need new lines for the gt-17. (unless I am missing something)
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:55 AM   #3
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You do REALLLLLLLLY need the oil return. Other than that there is only one other line that is different I believe (oil feed I think?) and that can be solved with the crush washers as already stated.

I think this has been hashed over hundreds of times...why can't anyone actually find this info?
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I searched.
all I found was links to the "conversion" parts on eeuroparts.
I wanted to see what a hack like me could do with what he's got.
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Guys notice he has a 9-5 if that makes a difference. You are all talking about T25 to TD04 where he will be going from GT17 to TD04.

I wish I could be more help. I did a TD04 swap on my 9-5 but bought the lines from a smashed Aero. Further, the swap was done along with an engine rebuild and happened when we installed the motor. As a result, I had ALL the lines, and ended up just picking the ones that fit. I didn't know which ones were from which car.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:31 AM   #6
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when you lose all your oil, spin a crank bearing, and have to drop a new engine in, just remember you were trying to save $40
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gt17s use 13 mm coolant lines, tdo4's use 12mm or mainly just the Banjos. Large fuel Filter washers with the Rubber inside work Just Fine you Just need 4 Large Fuel washers and 2 new 12mm Banjos to fit the Tdo4. Thats worke Fine on my last three 95's
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Hah wut?
Trust me, guy; I can swing it.

I needed to know if the lines were outright wrong, or can be modified.
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gt17s use 13 mm coolant lines, tdo4's use 12 Lines or mainly just the Banjos. Large fuel Filter washers with the Rubber inside work Just Fine you Just need 4 Large Fuel washers and 2 new 12mm Banjos to fit the Tdo4. Thats worke Fine on my last three 95's


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You do REALLLLLLLLY need the oil return. Other than that there is only one other line that is different I believe (oil feed I think?) and that can be solved with the crush washers as already stated.

I think this has been hashed over hundreds of times...why can't anyone actually find this info?
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a real answer.

thank you!
:sneeze: There was a real answer in my reply, maybe you missed it! You need the return, the other lines can be used with the correct washers.

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I have the lines, with the banjo bolts and washers all you need to bolt on for 75 plus shipping if your interested please call me 1-800-saab-137 ask for kyle
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Craig, for some reason my all-metal style td04 oil return did not seem like it was fitting right. I also had another td04 return (just the initial flange that attaches to the turbo) and re-used the gt-17 silicone center section and metal section that attaches to the block/oilpan. that was a snug fit and did the trick.
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Hmm rubber coated washers on a turbo eh?? Have fun with that.
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Hmm rubber coated washers on a turbo eh?? Have fun with that.
Do You Know where all the Other Rubber type parts are in a Tdo4? Hmmm?
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You can cut the lines like you would brake line and flare it. Then you can swap around the ends as needed. Then run high temp hose in between. Be careful that you cut the lines so that when you place the hose in place it isn't at an odd angle. I have this issue w/ my lower coolant line a VERY VERY slow minor leak for the lower coolant line. I plan on just springing for a hardline shortly.

As for the washers they are brass. IIRC coolant washers have a rubber/teflon lip to the inner side of them... I don't recall the sizes just call-up the dealer and ask.
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Hmm rubber coated washers on a turbo eh?? Have fun with that.
Not rubber coated, they have a rubber inner lip.

Not sure what you see as the problem there. Its on the CHRA, not inside the exhaust housing

If you think the area around the banjo bolt is at a temp hot enough to melt that rubber then the car has some other major issues. You'd be flash boiling all the oil and coolant running thought there
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Not rubber coated, they have a rubber inner lip.

Not sure what you see as the problem there. Its on the CHRA, not inside the exhaust housing

If you think the area around the banjo bolt is at a temp hot enough to melt that rubber then the car has some other major issues. You'd be flash boiling all the oil and coolant running thought there
I find his handle to be ironic because of this.
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Whatever, cheapskates. Go on feeling superior with your hacked together setup.

Gee Saab sure was stipud for using copper washers on the CHRA. They should've used rubberized FUEL FILTER washers like all the cool kids . Don't they know that all rubber is created equal!? Gawd.

Call Saabpro... $70 is not a lot to do the job properly.
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I have buckets of banjo bolts, and crush washers.
I don't really need 5-page argument about that.
I need to know about the lines.

It seems it was answered, and I appreciate that.
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Whatever, cheapskates. Go on feeling superior with your hacked together setup.

Gee Saab sure was stipud for using copper washers on the CHRA. They should've used rubberized FUEL FILTER washers like all the cool kids . Don't they know that all rubber is created equal!? Gawd.

Call Saabpro... $70 is not a lot to do the job properly.
Not my setup stupid - sorry, stipud! I have OEM lines and braided lines on my cars, the OP was just wondering what it is possible to get away with, and this is possible.
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