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Old 01-15-2009, 05:32 AM   #41
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Thanks for the kind words

I go with new posts as well, the structure of ecuproject needs to be redesigned I think, more moderating might be a good thing as well as the same question can appear 5 times / week in new threads...

On the moderation that is a very hard thing to get done sometimes with other issues going on in life but if you are volunteering to help moderate let me know and I will make it so!
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I wanna set a record for highest mileage, never been rebuilt engine. I'm at 128K and I've been driving the doors off it for 3 years.
well, you have a million mile c900 to compete with....
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well, you have a million mile c900 to compete with....
I know, it's gonna take a while. What's the highest mileage B235?

I have a question about T7Suite, do the staged tunes reduce the knock detection sensitivity?

My issue with ECUproject and T7Suite is that same it's always been. How the fuck do you actually do it? I need simple How-To's broken down into nice simple steps that us non-compsci folks can understand. I still have no idea what can and can't be used to get info on/off the ECU. I keep hearing about this BDM but haven't a clue where to get one or how to use it. I found the CANUSB, but again, no idea how to use it.
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I think Carls 99 9-5 was the highest mileage car on the site, though I think he sold it. I think it was at just over 200K. My 99 9-5 is no low mile car either with 160K on it now. No signs of engine trouble what so ever and so long as I keep changing the oil every 5K, I do not expect any.
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I know, it's gonna take a while. What's the highest mileage B235?

I have a question about T7Suite, do the staged tunes reduce the knock detection sensitivity?

My issue with ECUproject and T7Suite is that same it's always been. How the fuck do you actually do it? I need simple How-To's broken down into nice simple steps that us non-compsci folks can understand. I still have no idea what can and can't be used to get info on/off the ECU. I keep hearing about this BDM but haven't a clue where to get one or how to use it. I found the CANUSB, but again, no idea how to use it.
I posted earlier in this thread with links to your three options, there are many posts that tell you how to do it, just gotta search! Honestly if you can't figure out how to flash the ECU from the info posted, you're really gonna be confused by all the things that need to be adjusted in t7 suite!

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I think Carls 99 9-5 was the highest mileage car on the site, though I think he sold it. I think it was at just over 200K. My 99 9-5 is no low mile car either with 160K on it now. No signs of engine trouble what so ever and so long as I keep changing the oil every 5K, I do not expect any.
Just over 230k and as far as I know, the new owners are still driving it and loving it.

The current M03 Aero is catching up fast at nearly 173k.
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I posted earlier in this thread with links to your three options, there are many posts that tell you how to do it, just gotta search! Honestly if you can't figure out how to flash the ECU from the info posted, you're really gonna be confused by all the things that need to be adjusted in t7 suite!

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1. Forum searches are crap.
2. The information is spread across a bunch of different places. If the goal is make the T7 accessible to everyone it's failing.

Anyway, I'm going go out on a limb and just order the CANUSB interface and try to figure it out from there. So is the ability to use the CANUSB built into T7Suite or do I need to get another program to do that?
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On the moderation that is a very hard thing to get done sometimes with other issues going on in life but if you are volunteering to help moderate let me know and I will make it so!
Completely understand you! Get on MSN so we can have a talk!
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1. Forum searches are crap.
Ok thats not true at all..... take time and learn how to search the forum and you will find almost any answer you are looking for.




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2. The information is spread across a bunch of different places. If the goal is make the T7 accessible to everyone it's failing.
Thats such a crap statement!!!! Do you realize that 2 years ago there was no information!! NONE other than send me $1500 and I will send you a mailbox tune. How many people are tuning their own T7's now???? LOTS! and what is it costing them?

$50 for a BDM
$5 for header pins
$0 for time spent looking at the forums

So grand total---- $55 max. (compared to $1500?? )

The fact is that the T7 stuff is still under development and with the help of Dilemma, Mackan, General Failure, Sandy Rus, Drew in Houston and many others the work is being done so people dont have to do any work to find out how to do things.

How good is T5suite? and how many people are using it? Its good enough that I know 1 tuner who has lost 50% of their T5 business becuase there are that many people using it.


So instead of making statements that its failing come and help and contribute and make some changes. The ECUPROJECT site is something that I admin on with the help of a few people who moderate for me that is strictly volunteer in conjunction with my 80 hour a week day job so sorry if things are not layed out just so at this point but I will work on it.
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i will get on later so we can chat....cant get MSN at work right now.
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1. Forum searches are crap.
2. The information is spread across a bunch of different places. If the goal is make the T7 accessible to everyone it's failing.

Anyway, I'm going go out on a limb and just order the CANUSB interface and try to figure it out from there. So is the ability to use the CANUSB built into T7Suite or do I need to get another program to do that?
really, if its this difficult, you should probably just get a pro tune, and save yourself the headaches.

www.xendus.se has a helpful howto section for how to set up the public domain (cheap-o) BDM, though it wont work under XP, you'll have to follow the (very simple) tutorial here on TSL, or over at ECUproject about how to boot into DOS from a flash drive.

CANUSB will work through T7suite, you'll also need to power up the ECU and make a connector to attach to the CANBUS, a junk T7 harness is nice to have for this, but you can do it with some small spade connectors. again, all this info is on ECUproject, and ya should be able to locate it, it is a bit disjointed, but theres been a massive influx of info in a very small time, so the organization isnt quite there yet.

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really, if its this difficult, you should probably just get a pro tune, and save yourself the headaches.

www.xendus.se has a helpful howto section for how to set up the public domain (cheap-o) BDM, though it wont work under XP, you'll have to follow the (very simple) tutorial here on TSL, or over at ECUproject about how to boot into DOS from a flash drive.

CANUSB will work through T7suite, you'll also need to power up the ECU and make a connector to attach to the CANBUS, a junk T7 harness is nice to have for this, but you can do it with some small spade connectors. again, all this info is on ECUproject, and ya should be able to locate it, it is a bit disjointed, but theres been a massive influx of info in a very small time, so the organization isnt quite there yet.

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My point is that this is not well documented and it needs to be if you expect anyone to actually pick this software up and use it. The problem you (ecuproject) are having right now is you're too close to what you're building and haven't considered the end user. I was fiddling with the program and found the Download and flash buttons and was puzzled because I hadn't seen them in the documentation. I went back to the documentation and it's mentioned once and it only says that T7Suite can do it with no mention of what's required, how to attempt it, or heaven forbid what happens if it goes wrong. You consider flashing the ECU trivial, because you've done it 50 million times, but to the end user who's never heard of a CAN interface or a BDM it's complicated and a bit scary.

I searched to info on using the CANBUS and either got waaaaaaaaay too many hits to sort through or too few to actually learn how it works. I'm a fairly techy person, but whenever I attempt something that could result in bricking what I'm working on I like to be extra-well read and know EXACTLY what I'm doing. Bricking a MP3 player is annoying, bricking my car is epic fail and thus I want to know this inside and out before I attempt it.

The maps however, were fairly well explained in the T7 documentation, so they don't scare me at all right now.
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www.xendus.se has a helpful howto section for how to set up the public domain (cheap-o) BDM, though it wont work under XP, you'll have to follow the (very simple) tutorial here on TSL, or over at ECUproject about how to boot into DOS from a flash drive.
Seems to depend on the computer, I've tried a IBM laptop and a Compaq stationary computer and BDM flashing works on both in Win XP.
However my Dell laptop does'nt want to work neither in Dos or XP
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Ok thats not true at all..... take time and learn how to search the forum and you will find almost any answer you are looking for.






Thats such a crap statement!!!! Do you realize that 2 years ago there was no information!! NONE other than send me $1500 and I will send you a mailbox tune. How many people are tuning their own T7's now???? LOTS! and what is it costing them?

$50 for a BDM
$5 for header pins
$0 for time spent looking at the forums

So grand total---- $55 max. (compared to $1500?? )

The fact is that the T7 stuff is still under development and with the help of Dilemma, Mackan, General Failure, Sandy Rus, Drew in Houston and many others the work is being done so people dont have to do any work to find out how to do things.

How good is T5suite? and how many people are using it? Its good enough that I know 1 tuner who has lost 50% of their T5 business becuase there are that many people using it.


So instead of making statements that its failing come and help and contribute and make some changes. The ECUPROJECT site is something that I admin on with the help of a few people who moderate for me that is strictly volunteer in conjunction with my 80 hour a week day job so sorry if things are not layed out just so at this point but I will work on it.
Ok first, sorry, I seem to have deeply offended you. I didn't mean to belittle your work and efforts.

Secound, I'd love to help. I've finally graduated and have time to spend. The issue I have is only one of documentation. For example, there's no talk in the manual of how to transfer data with the ECU. It just needs some well thought out HOW-TOs and every thing would be a lot simpler. The consolidation into a wiki suggestion earlier in this thread is a really good idea to fix this issue.
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Raven, it's folks like you that are the sole reason why we sell so many T5 suite stage tunes. If people have to read something, search for data and then actually purchase other things, take their car apart, sauder header pins, hook up to a laptop, download free software... etc. etc. Well that's about 5 too many steps for most people. I would do what others suggested, and buy a T7 stage tune from someone. The data is there, if you really wanted to do it, you could do it. You are just being lazy.
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I have no problem reading. I read the whole PDF that was posted with T7Suite. It's the search through a sea of problem threads for a thread on how to actually do it that's driving me crazy. And the whole freaking time we've had this argument there's a freaking button in the program that'll interface with the ECU via the CAN bus. All get back is "search, search, search" when all I needed was "plug in your canusb to the ecu and the laptop and click teh button." The forum is just a sea of data, someone needs to go through it and organize it so we can actually get useful information without wad through a ton of posts we don't want. I'm actually reading up on wiki's to try and figure out how to do this.
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devils advocate:

yes i would say for the people who have dedicated alot of time to ECU project know their way inside and out though site blindfolded and can wiz though t5 and t7 suite with ease.

some of us who have not been following from the beginning though can have a hard time deciphering all the information, just because there is sooo much of it.

so yes i would say all the information is there, but much of what the "elders" would call "common knowlege" may be above some of us "noobs" heads.

I am going to start digging into t7suite as soon as i finish with my gauge project and i will let you know how i make out.
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WOOOOOOOOT! My CANUSB is on it's way, I'll be tinkering next week!
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I agree that all this stuff is difficutl to figure out if you don't spend the time on it. I generally WILL pay someone to do stuff but would love to be able to do it myself over time.

But having run training meetings in the past and as someone has mentioned before if you have it all worked out I woull also PAY to have someone show me how to do it. Maybe at Carlisle, or even a webex... prolly a lot of takers here and you can make some decent coin ( $200 a head or whatever)

Then you sell services like consulting to help people out over time
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