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Old 02-01-2013, 08:30 AM   #61
 
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Wasn't that Jeep test found to be cheated a bit? Mike, you are a good man to get the source on that lol.
Yeah, they fudged it by a lot....which is surprising because that newer GC was based on the Mercedes-Benz chassis...

I'd still get the new wrangler in a heartbeat...
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:34 AM   #62
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Wow talk about a shit-storm since I last posted. You guys can hate on Wranglers all you want, but you clearly don't understand them, and thats fine. It's a hard thing to understand and if you gotta ask, then don't bother. Glad your backing them up a bit here Palmer.

I believe my generation (TJ 97-06), is much better on road than older jeeps. Is it a car? No. Does it get good gas mileage? No. Can I carry shit? With no rear seat, yes, a lot.

Anyway as of now, I love it. I will probably snag up a small RWD DD for the summer if gas is killing me (miata perhaps), but for now I will just enjoy.
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Wow talk about a shit-storm since I last posted. You guys can hate on Wranglers all you want, but you clearly don't understand them, and thats fine. It's a hard thing to understand and if you gotta ask, then don't bother. Glad your backing them up a bit here Palmer.

I believe my generation (TJ 97-06), is much better on road than older jeeps. Is it a car? No. Does it get good gas mileage? No. Can I carry shit? With no rear seat, yes, a lot.

Anyway as of now, I love it. I will probably snag up a small RWD DD for the summer if gas is killing me (miata perhaps), but for now I will just enjoy.
I wouldn't sweat the gas. I got 10-12 mpg -- highway! -- in my old Grand Wagoneer, but I loved that car like another kid. There's just something about hearing a big-ass V8 turn over in the morning, kind of like an angry giant being shaken awake...
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FWIW, I <3 it. I will definitely own one at some point, and the TJ is by far my favorite gen. Buddy of mine has a 94 YJ that he's in the middle of putting a 4bt cummins in:

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FWIW, I <3 it. I will definitely own one at some point, and the TJ is by far my favorite gen. Buddy of mine has a 94 YJ that he's in the middle of putting a 4bt cummins in:

That's the only way to go, either the 3.3 or 3.9 (both considered 4BT's though).

25mpg, black smoke, cool sound.......
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...and shitloads of torque for rock crawling.

nothin' but win....
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No real updates here. Took my first 'difficult' trip off-roading last weekend, performed great. 1 foot of snow on some uneasy/muddy terrain, no problem for these smooth tires. Also forded my first river's.

Been buying a few things here and there for it, can't wait for summer. If anyone here wants one but is on the fence, just buy one, you wont regret it.
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Just Empty Every Pocket, in full effect. Bought a bumper and front fogs, had to drill some holes for the fogs on the side as well as license plate holes (fucking NY). Also painted the headlight bezel surrounds black, so no more chrome on the Jeep.

Anyway I think it came out great.



I have a Winch and heavy duty winch plate on order... as well as clear corners to replace the orange crap.
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