Originally Posted by Turbo00

FWIW, I <3 it. I will definitely own one at some point, and the TJ is by far my favorite gen. Buddy of mine has a 94 YJ that he's in the middle of putting a 4bt cummins in:

Originally Posted by Aikmanson

Wow talk about a shit-storm since I last posted. You guys can hate on Wranglers all you want, but you clearly don't understand them, and thats fine. It's a hard thing to understand and if you gotta ask, then don't bother. Glad your backing them up a bit here Palmer.

I believe my generation (TJ 97-06), is much better on road than older jeeps. Is it a car? No. Does it get good gas mileage? No. Can I carry shit? With no rear seat, yes, a lot.

Anyway as of now, I love it. I will probably snag up a small RWD DD for the summer if gas is killing me (miata perhaps), but for now I will just enjoy.

Originally Posted by Jameson

Wasn't that Jeep test found to be cheated a bit? Mike, you are a good man to get the source on that lol.

Originally Posted by NickTurbo900

I just don't get them.

I like the concept and think they are sharp looking, but

I've driven wranglers, and I felt like once the novelty wore off... I was just driving an uncomfortable and loud piece of military surplus. The seats are terrible. The on-road handling is terrible. The fuel economy is terrible and on a quiet night here in Vermont you can hear them rust. They are outrageously expensive, but that helps for resale on the other end I guess. There is no room to move anything with them.

I drive an 800$ 98 forester in mud season. It's great. Its a box on wheels with the seats down, it's like a pickup truck. I'd have to spend 6 times that to get into a wrangler with as much or more rust. I've had it for 3 years and have done front brakes and powersteering line.

I think a wrangler is a toy, and I'd love to have one for that. I can't imagine driving one everyday. Maybe they've improved.

Originally Posted by NickTurbo900

I just don't get them.

I like the concept and think they are sharp looking, but

I've driven wranglers, and I felt like once the novelty wore off... I was just driving an uncomfortable and loud piece of military surplus. The seats are terrible. The on-road handling is terrible. The fuel economy is terrible and on a quiet night here in Vermont you can hear them rust. They are outrageously expensive, but that helps for resale on the other end I guess. There is no room to move anything with them.

I drive an 800$ 98 forester in mud season. It's great. Its a box on wheels with the seats down, it's like a pickup truck. I'd have to spend 6 times that to get into a wrangler with as much or more rust. I've had it for 3 years and have done front brakes and powersteering line.

I think a wrangler is a toy, and I'd love to have one for that. I can't imagine driving one everyday. Maybe they've improved.

Originally Posted by mike saunders

Plus, what full-size Jeep owner is going to try to evade a fucking moose?

That's dinner, bro.