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11-12-2010 04:17 AM
JTMav [QUOTE=jssaab;791660]Not "Fake" its real, just scratch it and see, it splinters real nice, its just a laminate tho, really thin wood... ask me how I know...

This from a blog by the oldest Saab dealership in the US, Charles River Saab:

Another change for 2011 is the addition of wood-grained material on the dash, console and doors. I like wood. I’m a cellist; I appreciate beautiful wood handled in an artistic way. I like wood in a car. I don’t like fake wood. Saabs of old, say, 2001 and earlier, used a beautiful wood sealed in epoxy. More recent cars have had fake wood, albeit pretty good. The material in the 2011 9-5, especially in the shapes to which it is modeled, is so clearly plastic as to verge on the offensive. If this were a Rolls or Bentley, I might believe that hunks of wood were carved into exotic shapes for the application on the console. Not only does the shaping of this plastic convince one that the material is not wood, but the seams in the console pieces have gaps which amplify the tawdry result. Even the Lacrosse handles the fake wood thing better.


I haven't seen it but the pictures don't look too impressive. Some have complained about the Aero interior, I think, for the most part it's fine. I like the metal accents, maybe some carbon fiber around the NAV area would be nice. I saw that, not in the US, Hirsch has a leather upgrade for the Aero dash. Not sure about that.

JTMav
11-12-2010 03:36 AM
BurnsSide42 Fred Beans Saab is now showing 2 - 2011 9-5's In stock - both are 4 cylinder, one is showing as a manual trans - both retail price of $39,350!!!
11-12-2010 03:26 AM
spgeebee88
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Originally Posted by jssaab View Post
Not "Fake" its real, just scratch it and see, it splinters real nice, its just a laminate tho, really thin wood... ask me how I know...



Saw one off the truck at my dealer last week, but they were haveing an intro this week and did not even take the palctic off.

the big sunroof is really nice... is the 2.0 T8? Is it tunable? the turbo is behind the engine ( with the exhaust) so it could be hard to swap turbos i would imagine
not all of them have the wood,

iam not sure if its T8 yet but iam 99% sure its the same motor in the Cobalt SS the 2.0T Direct injected EcoTec
11-11-2010 03:03 PM
IX III
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I have only heard of good things about the new S4 with the blown 3.0. Pulley, exhaust,, intake, and ecu tune is going to show BIG gains. S4 vs 335 is a good match, but also each car plus $1500 will be fun to watch also.

I will second this... the 3.0t S4's are quite fun, but they just dont have the sound of the older V8 S4.

I haven't driven the 335 yet- so I cannot compare.
11-11-2010 02:45 PM
jssaab
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Hey, I have that in my Aero and I like it.
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Originally Posted by JTMav View Post
Are they really putting fake wood(plastic) in the non Aero interiors? That would be disappointing at this price point.

JTMav
Not "Fake" its real, just scratch it and see, it splinters real nice, its just a laminate tho, really thin wood... ask me how I know...

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Wow, that's sooner than I expected.
Saw one off the truck at my dealer last week, but they were haveing an intro this week and did not even take the palctic off.

the big sunroof is really nice... is the 2.0 T8? Is it tunable? the turbo is behind the engine ( with the exhaust) so it could be hard to swap turbos i would imagine
11-11-2010 12:00 PM
Jameson
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we just got 2 6spd turbo4's FWD off the truck today.... haven't driven them yet tho...
Wow, that's sooner than I expected.
11-11-2010 11:51 AM
Raven18940
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Originally Posted by JTMav View Post
Are they really putting fake wood(plastic) in the non Aero interiors? That would be disappointing at this price point.

JTMav
Hey, I have that in my Aero and I like it.
11-11-2010 11:29 AM
JTMav
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Originally Posted by spgeebee88 View Post
we just got 2 6spd turbo4's FWD off the truck today.... haven't driven them yet tho...
Are they really putting fake wood(plastic) in the non Aero interiors? That would be disappointing at this price point.

JTMav
11-11-2010 08:29 AM
spgeebee88 we just got 2 6spd turbo4's FWD off the truck today.... haven't driven them yet tho...
11-05-2010 06:34 PM
JLausch
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Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
I have only heard of good things about the new S4 with the blown 3.0. Pulley, exhaust,, intake, and ecu tune is going to show BIG gains. S4 vs 335 is a good match, but also each car plus $1500 will be fun to watch also.
Yeah i've heard tons of compliments as well, i just don't like the Audi (so its purely opinion based lol)
11-05-2010 07:07 AM
Raven18940
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Originally Posted by bruceinmiami View Post
I'm getting the 9-2 when its available. I don't even care much how it looks as long as its small, light, quality comparable to a mini, and priced like the mini.
I'm thinking the same thing. But I might just wuss out and get one of the last 9-3 SS. 31 EPA Highway MPG is really nice and I like the car overall.
11-04-2010 06:16 PM
DeLorean You would be very surprised at how many people won't buy a car without a manual transmission... and the big engine with the most HP, and no manual option? Pffff.
11-04-2010 03:19 PM
Jameson
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Originally Posted by JLausch View Post
I would go audi or BMW, as long as the new one looks good, I'm partial to BMW, audis are never quite as satisfying to drive, although they are quite good, a 335 is as fast as an s4, and uses turbos, which I <3
I have only heard of good things about the new S4 with the blown 3.0. Pulley, exhaust,, intake, and ecu tune is going to show BIG gains. S4 vs 335 is a good match, but also each car plus $1500 will be fun to watch also.
11-04-2010 03:10 PM
bruceinmiami I'm getting the 9-2 when its available. I don't even care much how it looks as long as its small, light, quality comparable to a mini, and priced like the mini.

In other words, I'm getting a mini-type car no matter what. Be it saab badged or the alfa 500 that's coming soon.

Just hope saab has a contender so I can indulge.
11-04-2010 02:26 PM
JLausch I would go audi or BMW, as long as the new one looks good, I'm partial to BMW, audis are never quite as satisfying to drive, although they are quite good, a 335 is as fast as an s4, and uses turbos, which I <3
11-04-2010 10:49 AM
Kandiru Too bad, my options at Turbo X lease:

1. Audi S4
2. Acura TL SHAWD 6MT
3. BMW F30
11-03-2010 09:30 PM
Castor Troy doesnt look like any markets are getting v6's with manuals
11-03-2010 09:25 PM
JLausch Yeah only the 4 banger is getting the manual, thats been the plan all along from what i've heard. For the amount of development they would need to fill a small market its doubtfully worth while, hopefully the future non gm influenced ventures will allow for more flexibility.
11-03-2010 12:11 PM
Powar I'll take a 4cyl FWD MTX wagon, please.
11-03-2010 09:46 AM
stig That's really going to drive me away from buying a used one in 5 years.

I can see that not being a particularly worthwhile development, but it is pretty disappointing for the few people that would care. Can we get 4cyl XWD with a manual?
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