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05-21-2008 03:53 AM
crazybrightman you will need the bulkhead plate aswell that the pedals and master cylinder mount too, unless you can modify the orginal? you cant on rhd cars.
05-20-2008 02:08 PM
JZW
Got here in the car :-)

Picked up a 2000 9-3 tranny FM 507 with 4.05 final drive for 550.00.

It had the rear motor mount bracket and the motor mount, tranny mount and motor mount and the top hydraulic clutch adaptor piece and slave cylinder and shift linkage...
So, all I need now is the clutch pedal with master cylinder and the hard line from pedal to slave and the soft line from resivior to master cylinder.

It had 47k on the clock, came out of a b205 motor.

Looks line hard line is 72 bucks new and used clutch pedal and master cylinder is 185 from used parts store. So, about 257 in clutch parts and I will have a nice 9-3 tranny with hydraulic clutch No more clutch cable breakage worries.... Of course this time the clutch cable out lasted the tranny, tranny still works, just won't shift into third quickly, crunches

John
05-17-2008 09:03 PM
NahumCC Any og9-3 trans will bolt to any b2x4/b2x5 series motor.

As for the 9-3SS box getting the diesel bell housing will be the most difficult part for ya........even more so if your here stateside.



05-17-2008 06:17 PM
crazybrightman
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Originally Posted by srp View Post
I meant 02 OG 9-3 and the 03 OG 9-3 Vert. trans.

I believe the 9-3SS 6 spd feets but you have to use a diesel bell housing or something to that effect.
sounds interesting that may look into it for the track car as i need a 9-3ss box for its cable shift. i was just going to use a 5speed and use the bellhousing off a 200-2003 9-3 box so i could fit it too a b204.

anyhow all the boxes from 2000 onwards were the same on the 9-3 iirc just the lpt and diesel models had the fm57 which is the higher final drive. get an fm55 2000 onwards and you'll have a strong box that bolts straight in other than the hydraulic slave that is.
05-17-2008 05:46 PM
132417SAAB I've never seen the shift up light in my 9k
05-17-2008 05:38 PM
srp
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Originally Posted by crazybrightman View Post
9-3ss boxes have a differnt bellhousing i thought so dont fit?
I meant 02 OG 9-3 and the 03 OG 9-3 Vert. trans.

I believe the 9-3SS 6 spd feets but you have to use a diesel bell housing or something to that effect.
05-17-2008 01:58 PM
crazybrightman 9-3ss boxes have a differnt bellhousing i thought so dont fit?
05-17-2008 11:07 AM
srp Might want to shoot for an 02+ tranny also. Didn't they get the update kit?
05-17-2008 10:56 AM
JK John, try a one of those Nissan clutch cables that are rumored to be stronger...
05-17-2008 10:43 AM
jdinneen The shift up light, as far as I know, just reads vacuum, the clutch pedal sensor, and the gear number. As long as the clutch is out and you're in gears 1,2,3, or 4, it will tell you to shift up if you're in a certain vacuum range, IE: you're not accelerating hard but you are giving it a little gas. Unless the 9k one works differently (running off the trans speed sensor) it wouldn't make any difference to change transmissions in any car as far as the shift light is concerned. It would simply still check the vacuum and what gear you're in.

That's all to the best of my knowledge, which may be flawed.
05-17-2008 08:27 AM
JZW I think you are right, get the stronger 9-3 gear box with better third gear and better final drive and then its a good reason to have a hydraulic clutch

I bet the spec pressure plate would be even worse than the viggen pp for the clutch cable to handle. Nothing worse than being stuck in traffic with a broken clutch cable.

Nick made a good point, I was thinking of that 15k 05- 93 tranny, but then why spend another 300-400 bucks on a tranny that will probably be lucky to last this race season.

If I was going to take it easy and not abuse the tranny, a nice low mileage one might be worth it, but since I plan to get a 12 in Denver, I will be putting the tranny through some abuse, might as well get the best deal on the lowest mile one and just go for it.

The nice 1999 47k one for 550 is looking pretty good...

John
05-17-2008 06:42 AM
crazybrightman 9-3 gearbox is the best route it will be stronger. go for an fm55 box has stronger internals. you could go for a viggen box if you wanted it even stronger and change to viggen driveshafts.
05-17-2008 05:28 AM
jonny72888 i hate my shift up light, in 4th at 35mph it tells me to shift up but if you do then the car with shake cazzy. i want to get it shut off umtil 5500rmps.

so would the tranny swap affect that? would it cause a shift light to come on to soon?
05-16-2008 08:18 PM
drewz airflow se I don't even get shift up light in 3rd.
05-16-2008 08:17 PM
NahumCC Not like it wouldn't be hard to apply the boost, fuel, and ignition map over to an OBD I ecu. However I wouldn't be that worried about it really.



05-16-2008 08:16 PM
drewz airflow se
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Originally Posted by NahumCC View Post
You can do it if you want but you don't really need to. If you feel that its made that much of a negative impact just ask for a reflash for a 99 og9-3 file.

However it wouldn't suprise me if the 99 og9-3 file (for the t5 cars) is the exact same file as the ng900 file.
well i have a obd1 car so could they even do that.
05-16-2008 08:09 PM
NahumCC
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Originally Posted by drewz airflow se View Post
I think i need a custom tune for my 9-3 trans in my ng because it has a totally different gear ratio.
You can do it if you want but you don't really need to. If you feel that its made that much of a negative impact just ask for a reflash for a 99 og9-3 file.

However it wouldn't suprise me if the 99 og9-3 file (for the t5 cars) is the exact same file as the ng900 file.



05-16-2008 08:06 PM
drewz airflow se I think i need a custom tune for my 9-3 trans in my ng because it has a totally different gear ratio.
05-16-2008 08:04 PM
NahumCC Exactly, no need to reflash the ecu just because you go to a different trans. Now if you wanted a custom tune to map power to match the gearing then yeah you would need a tune. If JZW finds he needs the tune reworked because the change of gearing makes it needed the I'm sure JZW and Jak will work on a good tune for it.



05-16-2008 08:03 PM
JZW
Quote:
Originally Posted by troll_speed View Post
I asked Jak about doing this last year and he suggested not to. I want to anyway, and have the final drive to go into my tranny rebuild with the Quaife I'm getting.

You'll need a reflash of the ECU as well judging by what Nick said.
I don't know if Jak has ever tried it, but there are quite a few people that have run them on the drag strip. I personally don't think you will notice much of a difference in the ecu, it just spool-up a hair earlier and that is what I need for my big turbo.

I know a couple of guys that went to the 9-3 tranny and the sw worked just fine.

I cancelled the na order, I might just have to go the 9-3 tranny route, I need as much better gearing as I can get and combining the 1.18/1 third gear and the 4.05 final drive is the best bet. I will just source the pedal and clutch cylinder from a junk yard and then make my own hydraulic conversion.

I have always wanted to do it and I think now is the time... I found one 550 with 31k and one 2005 for 700 and one 99 for 550 with 47k.

Not sure if the 2005 93 tranny would bolt right up, seems like there might been some changes by then. Anyone know?

John
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