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05-13-2008 01:19 PM
Bullseye
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Originally Posted by Topher View Post
There is nothing more fulfilling in autox then apexing over the base of a cone.

The first time you do it, it's like hitting a hole in one.
You betcha.

I gotta stop reading these threads. I actually had a little trouble getting to sleep last night.
05-13-2008 12:14 PM
JK for the sake of fun and boredom...here are the clean times from the autocross that I did.

Again, showing that places can change if you tage a few cones, but if you're doing really consistent you might try pushing it a few times, as it might not push your overall place back too far.

05-13-2008 11:36 AM
Topher Yup.
05-13-2008 11:35 AM
Jameson
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Originally Posted by Topher View Post
There is nothing more fulfilling in autox then apexing over the base of a cone.

The first time you do it, it's like hitting a hole in one.
I assume that means you tagged it without actually forcefully knocking it over to get a time adjustment?

Kind of reminds me of "deep staging" in bracket racing. Its great when you do it right, but its quite easy to trip the lights and get a red light instead
05-13-2008 11:28 AM
Topher There is nothing more fulfilling in autox then apexing over the base of a cone.

The first time you do it, it's like hitting a hole in one.
05-13-2008 11:26 AM
JK Champ did damn well with his floppy unibody!

I might go re-evaluate that time table again and take those penalties that all those people ahead of me got and see how I actually stacked up

I had only one cone all day. That tells me two things #1 I was probably not apexing close enough to the cones, and #2 I could have probably done better!
05-13-2008 11:21 AM
Jameson ^

I know I will have nothing to blame on the Viggen. It has the right suspension, tires and brakes and more than enough power. It has a floppy unibody yes, but if my times suck, its 100% me.
05-13-2008 11:14 AM
JK Hahaha.

Here, this might make you feel better (or it will pretty much show you that you cannot blame your performance on your car, at all).



That is from the Autocross that Champ, Adouglas and I (along with some local VW guys) did a few weeks ago. It was super cold out - less than 50 degrees - so it was not idea tire conditions. See how I did in my winter beater with OLD shocks and stock 200,000 mile SPG springs did compared to the other cars.

Its driver, its all driver.

Could I have done better in my car with better tires? Yeah, probably. Could I have done better using the Intergra with like 10" wide Hoosier slicks? I'm sure i could have. Could the guy in the M3 have done better than me? Hell yeah, but he didn't.
05-13-2008 11:08 AM
Jameson
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If it's a tight course, consider keeping the fronts softer and the rears stiff.

But you are really over thinking this...it's not an F1 race.

Its not a matter of over thinking. I am competitive and hard on myself. If I can do some homework to be better prepared, why not? In the end, my goal is to have fun which I will do even if I hit every single cone.

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Originally Posted by Powar View Post
Thanks, Topher. I've tried telling him this, but I think it's the nature of the Jameson to worry and overthink.

See above, wouldn't call it worrying. I am excited and looking forward to it. If it was a maze of cones, I might be kind of nervous.
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Originally Posted by JK View Post
Has Jameson posted what times he hopes to have for each run?
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Originally Posted by Topher View Post
Yes, he said under 26 seconds.

Yep, I like to have a goal. It makes improvement more tangible with something to work torwards.
05-13-2008 11:03 AM
Topher Yes, he said under 26 seconds.
05-13-2008 11:00 AM
JK Has Jameson posted what times he hopes to have for each run?
05-13-2008 10:18 AM
Powar
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Originally Posted by Topher View Post
But you are really over thinking this...it's not an F1 race.

Thanks, Topher. I've tried telling him this, but I think it's the nature of the Jameson to worry and overthink.
05-13-2008 10:14 AM
Topher If it's a tight course, consider keeping the fronts softer and the rears stiff.

But you are really over thinking this...it's not an F1 race.

05-13-2008 10:09 AM
Jameson
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Originally Posted by Powar View Post
Like I told you on AIM, for your first event, I'd just follow the KISS rule of life. I wouldn't worry too much about the suspension settings unless you have some serious handling issues with your current setup. Drive it as you brought it, aside from putting 35+ lbs of pressure into those Azenis.

Don't overthink it. Just get out there and have fun. Maybe I'll register to run with you in the 'vert. I guess I need to do some shakedown runs tonight to see how it takes to the abuse. Ha...
Too much body roll with the konis on soft which is my DD setup. I drive it on full firm enough that it shouldn't be too foreign to me.
05-13-2008 09:53 AM
Powar
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Originally Posted by Jameson View Post
Nice.

Like I said, I don't have ANY AutoX experience.
Like I told you on AIM, for your first event, I'd just follow the KISS rule of life. I wouldn't worry too much about the suspension settings unless you have some serious handling issues with your current setup. Drive it as you brought it, aside from putting 35+ lbs of pressure into those Azenis.

Don't overthink it. Just get out there and have fun. Maybe I'll register to run with you in the 'vert. I guess I need to do some shakedown runs tonight to see how it takes to the abuse. Ha...
05-13-2008 09:45 AM
Jameson
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Originally Posted by JK View Post
yeah, usually they start you with run-up space before the timing gate. This reduces the need to doing any clutch dropping burnouts or anything.
Nice.

Like I said, I don't have ANY AutoX experience.

When I was in MI, a friend was part of an engineering program. One weekend we put a very well sorted suspension setup on the first Terrible F- which might be better than the Vigg at this point.

They had just built a new school for the engineering dept which was not open yet. It was freshly paved with great bends and turns and changes in elevation. His dept. was working on suspension tuning on a open wheeled race car. One night they got into the unopened school and made a track day out of it.

My friend and I took turns dialing in the new suspension on the "track". It was pretty amazing. The course wound up being about 3/4 of a mile long hitting speeds of about 75-85 at the time.
05-13-2008 09:44 AM
Bullseye
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Originally Posted by JK View Post
yeah, usually they start you with run-up space before the timing gate. This reduces the need to doing any clutch dropping burnouts or anything.

Yea. They spoil all the fun.
05-13-2008 09:40 AM
JK yeah, usually they start you with run-up space before the timing gate. This reduces the need to doing any clutch dropping burnouts or anything.
05-13-2008 09:35 AM
Topher You don't really launch hard in autox, more just roll out.
05-13-2008 09:32 AM
Jameson
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Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
It used to be "flying start". Dunno about this year. So, you get almost a full lap in to warm things up.
Thats also nice since I have never really launched this car for all its worth out of love for my gearbox.
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