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04-17-2008 08:38 AM
GenuineSaab Only problems with running the 2.3 high revs is valve springs / valves if t5 I turn my Vig 7200 thats maybe a little much but has been for years.. If it brakes well not going to blame the tuner.

Piston speed becomes a little bit of an issue at high revs. I run JEs in my vig but plan to keep stock till there is a reason to replace.

Now the challenge is actually making power up there.. Sometimes it is nice to be able to overrev a little even knowing power is falling in a situation where shifting would cost too much time. Ex: My vig goes through the lights on the 1/4 on limiter in 3rd.
04-17-2008 07:42 AM
Green9kAERO has this car been driven alot since??
this is a pretty cool project, but i dont see a high rev limit unless he destroked it to 2.0. what is it running for timing?
JP
04-10-2008 09:18 AM
spgproject
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Originally Posted by GenuineSaab View Post
then we play when will it pop..
i like that game, but sometimes it results in pregnancy.....not good.

this does sound like a very fun project though. i've been enjoying watching it progress especially since these old n/a ng's are starting to get really cheap!
04-10-2008 08:23 AM
GenuineSaab Here is the rough plan... Since the header makes more midrange, switch to the 2.0 short intake and see what happens. Once we can sort the fuel and timing maybe bump the rev limiter a bit should get exciting.. Maybe e85 too since it smells so good. Best part is hopefully with a modified t5 harness it will be a relatively easy swap. Plus when I get tired of the na LPT e85 will be close then we play when will it pop..
04-09-2008 01:28 PM
SAABOOST
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Originally Posted by GenuineSaab View Post
Sensors seem to the the biggest difference..

Anybody have a 94-95 t5 2.0t 900 Manual engine wiring harness the would like to donate to the cause? Later would work but would have extra crap.
PM'd
04-09-2008 05:42 AM
GenuineSaab Sensors seem to the the biggest difference..

Anybody have a 94-95 t5 2.0t 900 Manual engine wiring harness the would like to donate to the cause? Later would work but would have extra crap.
04-09-2008 03:22 AM
SAABOOST How much different is the 94 9000 b234i harness to say a b204L harness, besides the BPC? A few pinouts? Thoughts of a being able to swap back and forth from a 200bhp b234i and a 300hp b204/b234 in an afternoon with pretty much just an ecu/engine swap would be the sh!t
04-08-2008 06:21 PM
SAABOOST
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Originally Posted by GenuineSaab View Post
Trionic harness? Thats the plan for mine and use the maps from a 9000 -94 Na 2.3 trionic.
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wow. interesting idea. i like!
My thoughts exactly
04-08-2008 06:20 PM
spgproject wow. interesting idea. i like!
04-08-2008 02:57 PM
GenuineSaab Trionic harness? Thats the plan for mine and use the maps from a 9000 -94 Na 2.3 trionic.
04-08-2008 02:06 PM
JK
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Yeah that's pretty nice but as soon as you say "Abbott", you say "I can't afford that"

No kidding!
04-08-2008 02:02 PM
SAABOOST Yeah that's pretty nice but as soon as you say "Abbott", you say "I can't afford that"



Besides having C10 in the tank, loads of weight reduction, shaving the heads 30thou, gasket matching the intakes and the early 94 4-2 manifolds, we haven't done much. I need some idea's on some not-so expensive invisible upgrades.
04-08-2008 02:00 PM
JK There are many other european makers who use Motronic - BMW, Volvo for sure, and certainly more. They are all going to be different for each car, but I'm sure not so different that tuning them is a totally different ballgame.
04-08-2008 01:33 PM
moose
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Could you give me an example?

We just picked up (2) NG2.3i that are being caged as I type. A heavier 150bhp probably isn't gonna cut it against the 160-200bhp Jap's. I mean driving abillity can only make up for so much.
9-3 2.0 Normally Aspirated


http://www.abbottracing.com/pages/race-history.php
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1997 season saw another new SAAB making its track debut, once again thanks to Abbott Racing. This time it was the turn of the Normally Aspirated 2.0 9-3, built to race in the United Kingdom "National Saloon Car Cup".

We developed and built a new 230 BHP 2.0 engine in 3 months to be competitive in this new series. Consistently good results saw the car finish third in the championship.

When it comes to circuit racing, no one in the world, including the SAAB factory teams can match the technical knowledge of Abbott Racing Motorsport. It is this Motorsport grounding that we call upon to develop SAAB's into the ultimate road cars, and as with our Motorsport - with total success...
04-08-2008 01:23 PM
SAABOOST
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I would still love to see a 200whp ng900, and I bet it could be done.
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And there are plenty of people that are able to tune motronic, so I don't think is too much of an obstacle.

Could you give me an example?

We just picked up (2) NG2.3i that are being caged as I type. A heavier 150bhp probably isn't gonna cut it against the 160-200bhp Jap's. I mean driving abillity can only make up for so much.
03-03-2008 09:40 AM
Saabotage89 early march = now

hope all is going well with this
02-05-2008 06:11 AM
GenuineSaab I expect we will get to this early March. Too much until then.
02-04-2008 08:40 AM
ice_ca900 Nick:

Any Progress made on the header, if so when will you be going into production, and what cost are we looking at
01-25-2008 02:39 PM
spgproject
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Sure I will do all the development work. That doesn't cost anything and then everyone can copy the parts.. Sounds fair. Just figure it out on paper, order a bunch of materials and try something. Then book a couple hours of dyno time to see how it works out.
funny shit!
01-25-2008 02:35 PM
AeroDynamic
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Sure I will do all the development work. That doesn't cost anything and then everyone can copy the parts..

HA.
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