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03-29-2005 03:13 PM
mike saunders I think summit racing sells them...K&N drychargers...It's a treated polyester sleeve that fits over the filter element.....
03-29-2005 12:15 AM
swedishassassin Where would I find one of the water-resistant covers? I actually took the CAI off for the time being (smog-check), and was thinking about reworking the design a little bit...
03-28-2005 06:41 PM
mike saunders
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Originally Posted by swedishassassin
I'm not worried about the water issue - most of the front bumper would have to be submerged for water to get to the filter (almost an impossibility here in southern California), and the angle of the intake pipe would mean that the water would have to climb at almost 90 degreees (the CAI is a pretty tight fit - even had to trim the back of the headlight a few millimeters).
I dunno bout this....

The water you should be worried about isn't always standing water, it's the airborne stuff, which will definitely get sucked onto the filter and up the pipe. Road spray and heavy rain make their way into the stock system, and it's designed to deal with it by diverting the airstream to the back of the stock airbox to presumably accumulate the droplets against a vertical surface. It also keeps water away from the filter medium with those those baffles and drainhole at the bottom of the box. A conical filter doesn't have this safeguard.

Putting a conical filter in the stock position is probably OK, but I'd think twice about dropping it lower. Maybe to the opening behind the headlight, but go lower at your own peril. Have you considered one of those water resistant covers for the filter?

And Rico's comment was pretty on target: If you're dropping intake air temps down close to ambient pre-compression, or even below, you still need to do something about the throttle-body intake pipe. While the 9-3 pipe is ABS, the 900 pipe is aluminum. Both will lessen the good deeds done by that sparkly new IC ...
03-28-2005 05:32 PM
JABM Yeah I figured as much and only came across PVC.
I honestly tend to wanter through every section whenever I go to the home imporvement stores simply to see if anything catches my eye that makes me think I could use it to make something cool.

Any other thoughts on where I could score me some ABS plastic?
03-28-2005 05:19 PM
PaulH
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Originally Posted by JABM
Hey-

What section of Home Depot did you find the ABS plastic in?
I searched both my local Home Depot and Lowes and could only find PVC. When asking the people who work there (like that ever does any good) they didn't seem to think that they carried it.

I've been trying to find ABS tubing because it can handle the high temps of the engine bay and thus ought to work for intercooler tubing and intake delivery pipes.
ABS is a seasonal item at home depot, its usually used for irrigation so they only have it in the summer if at all. if they did have it it would probably be either in the plumbing section or in the garden area.

god it sucks knowing where things are in home depot /

Paul
03-28-2005 05:16 PM
JABM Hey-

What section of Home Depot did you find the ABS plastic in?
I searched both my local Home Depot and Lowes and could only find PVC. When asking the people who work there (like that ever does any good) they didn't seem to think that they carried it.

I've been trying to find ABS tubing because it can handle the high temps of the engine bay and thus ought to work for intercooler tubing and intake delivery pipes.
03-22-2005 08:57 AM
BurnsSide42 I think almost ANY automotive parts store will carry them - I'm not 100% certain - but if ya ask DeLorean I'm sure he could tell ya where he bought his from - both times.... :P
03-22-2005 08:17 AM
swedishassassin Where do I get some? The zip ties seem to be working okay (after a 120mph romp the IC was still really cool, so I'm not too worried about melting), but I really would rather have the install be a little less ghetto...
03-22-2005 08:14 AM
BurnsSide42 I would still suggest you went out and spent the $10 for the GOOD radiator Ties - as seen on DeLorean's IC install....

03-22-2005 08:13 AM
swedishassassin As for selling them, I don't know if it would be worth it for you N/A guys to pay me rather than make your own. It's honestly a really easy build ( I did mine in about an hour, including all the test fitting, cutting, and install), and the pipe is inexpensive (about $25 for all the pipe and couplings). Furthermore, seeing as I traded in my N/A for the SE I have now, designing one for the 2.3 would be kinda hard. It should be pretty easy if you guys want to try it though - the N/A would prob. be easier than mine, seeing as that whole left side of the engine bay is open, and there's no MAF to reposition and worry about.
03-22-2005 08:05 AM
swedishassassin I'm not worried about the water issue - most of the front bumper would have to be submerged for water to get to the filter (almost an impossibility here in southern California), and the angle of the intake pipe would mean that the water would have to climb at almost 90 degreees (the CAI is a pretty tight fit - even had to trim the back of the headlight a few millimeters).

About the ABS, it's just the type of plastic (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene). "ABS is an easily machined, tough, low cost rigid thermoplastic material with high impact strength, ideal for turning, drilling, milling, sawing, die-cutting, shearing". It's what all of the plastic pieces in the engine bay (and prob. the rest of the car) are made out of. It's really heat resistant, won't break, and maintains a semi-stock look. You can pick up the pipe at any Home Depot (or other hardeware store, though they may not have the variety of the larger chains)
03-22-2005 05:44 AM
rcmdesign Technically if you made more of those, you could sell to us N/A guys, because it looks like you can rotate that top piece to point more from the N/A intake side, and then it will fit like magic . What is that stuff made of though? What's ABS?
03-22-2005 05:41 AM
abdukted1456 that is really cool, but are you not afraid of sucking up water into your turbo and/or engine?
03-22-2005 05:39 AM
ricot83 u know what all this talk all the time of people that dont want their filters pulling in hot air kinda makes me laugh, i touched my inlet pipe on my car two days ago after driving it real hard and my inlet pipe was hot as balls....
03-21-2005 11:48 PM
swedishassassin So, I feel like a bit of an ass for blowing up about the IC ... turns out that I was able to install with very few problems, and the mounting problem was solved easily with some zip-ties.
During the install I decided to design a CAI to go with my JR filter (don't want hot air from the engine bay) out of 3" black ABS. turned out awesome - fits snugly all around, and puts the cone right at the bottom of the bumper...
03-21-2005 10:09 PM
JABM I had the same issue when I got mine in the mail. It turns out MP discovered that there was no need for the mounting tabs and as such, they decided not to install them on any of their intercoolers. I just wish that they had told us this.

Chris just had a baby and will be out of work for a few weeks...or so I'm told.
03-21-2005 03:13 PM
PaulH
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Originally Posted by ricot83
i am extremely confused!!!!!! is this being mounted on a classic??????????
haha didnt even notice that he posted in the wrong section. but i would assume its going in an ng as thats what thats made for and it wouldnt fit at all in a classic.

someone should move this.

Paul
03-21-2005 03:06 PM
ricot83 i am extremely confused!!!!!! is this being mounted on a classic??????????
03-21-2005 02:49 PM
stevehayes01
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Originally Posted by saabkid37
as i read on saabnet performance board....there no need for mounting points it goes in just fine...someone had the someone flip out when they opened theres and then put it on and it was just fine....
The clearance behind the front bumper and the radiator is all you need to mount it in place with no issues. This IC is larger and is very snug in the space so you will not have an issue with fit.
03-21-2005 01:42 PM
saabkid37 as i read on saabnet performance board....there no need for mounting points it goes in just fine...someone had the someone flip out when they opened theres and then put it on and it was just fine....



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