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02-16-2015 04:40 PM
Saabeh Yeah, gotta love it. "Help!" "Okay, do this and this." Silence...
02-16-2015 01:34 PM
Drew in Houston And....no log on since 11/14 or followup from the original poster
02-16-2015 09:02 AM
g96nt I'm fairly certain that this bots messages are all partial quotes from earlier in the threads.
02-16-2015 08:50 AM
Saabeh
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Originally Posted by xiaonvren View Post
christ, you people are dicks
This is helpful.
02-15-2015 11:11 PM
xiaonvren christ, you people are dicks




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11-23-2014 07:27 PM
Drew in Houston https://www.saablink.net/forum/items-sale/97905.htm

OP: Here's a new controller for $50. If you think it's the engine controller, buy this, send MikeD a PM, or one of the other guys who do tuning on here, he'll tell you what to do. Worst case you're out maybe $100-$120 total, but you'll have a pretty high level of certainty that the controller isn't your problem.
11-21-2014 07:48 PM
Palmer christ, you people are dicks

just fuck eachother, and get it over with
11-21-2014 07:01 PM
Drew in Houston Okay yeah, that's weird, like you're imagining some kind of domination thing or something.. Didn't you just have a new infant there tough guy, driving that 200k mile station wagon, mouthing off on the internet? Anyway, my ego's just fine thank you. Like I told you before, consider that this applies directly to you Craig: Dunningā€“Kruger effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm still waiting for the advanced stuff. This thread already covered the first two "advanced" things that you mentioned. Checking the crank sensor isn't a bad idea at all, although, we all know that the symptoms the OP described don't match a failed or failing crank sensor lol

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Originally Posted by g96nt View Post
Wouldn't we just be better to hug it out than discuss proper trouble shooting by watching sensor outputs via the tech2 or obd2 logger? Who would want to do things like ground injectors, manually power a fuel pump or read signal outputs of things like the crank position sensor.

Let's just hug, and I'll whisper into your ear how much your ego turns me on.
11-21-2014 06:47 PM
g96nt Wouldn't we just be better to hug it out than discuss proper trouble shooting by watching sensor outputs via the tech2 or obd2 logger? Who would want to do things like ground injectors, manually power a fuel pump or read signal outputs of things like the crank position sensor.

Let's just hug, and I'll whisper into your ear how much your ego turns me on.
11-21-2014 06:42 PM
Drew in Houston
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Originally Posted by g96nt View Post
Drew... I love you, man... really I do.
Probably not quite as much as you love yourself... but I do.
Good, awesome then. Please enlighten us all and explain the "advanced troubleshooting" that you recommend? lol

After that you can give some instruction on the failure modes of mass air flow sensors, how Trionic 7 uses the signal, and the benefits of installation post compressor.

Oh, yeah and for sure let me know when you're ready to install a blow through setup on your daily driver wagon vs. mouthing off on the internet, offer's still on the table here to pay for the parts.
11-21-2014 06:36 PM
g96nt Drew... I love you, man... really I do.
Probably not quite as much as you love yourself... but I do.
11-21-2014 06:07 PM
Drew in Houston
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Originally Posted by nowhereman View Post
you may classify them as tools (most of us do) however to someone that doesnt have them and isnt in to cars like most of us would consider them advanced ways of troubleshooting. calm down.

something beyond the scope of the OPs current knowledge abilities is wrong, they need to either bring it to a reputable saab mechanic or get on the phone with someone that can walk them through some steps to get a better idea what is going on.
My point exactly, thank you.

Craig is a member of that group and has no idea what kind of "advanced troubleshooting" he's actually recommending. There's no Easy Button on a Tech 2, or a multimeter, or an insulation tester, or on a socket set.

If the OP would show a little willingness to make some kind of committed investment, learn and get his hands a little dirty to gather necessary information/check some things, there's no doubt he could figure out what's wrong, and with near real time help from this forum (me included). For example, I covered exactly what you two repeated, I just didn't wear my kid gloves after he acted all helpless; and meanwhile the people who are standing by, that actually could help, still have no additional information from the OP.

For example, take the valve cover off, rotate the engine to see the cam markings, then count the links between. That would involve using a socket set though, and possibly buying a large socket to spin the crank, and the right torx bit to remove the valve cover and not acting all helpless.

Another example, after that, hey here's an idea, borrow a compression tester the same way that he wasn't willing to borrowed a fuel pressure regulator and check that the engine even has compression by removing the 4 torx bolts that hold the ignition cassette in place and removing some spark plugs.
11-21-2014 04:07 AM
nowhereman
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Originally Posted by Drew in Houston View Post
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Originally Posted by g96nt View Post
Advanced like with a tech 2, obd2 logger or even a node light.

You know.. the kind of stuff that not every person has at their disposal

You can't possibly be that out of touch that you think every person has these things
Those are tools craig, not advanced ways to trace a problem.
you may classify them as tools (most of us do) however to someone that doesnt have them and isnt in to cars like most of us would consider them advanced ways of troubleshooting. calm down.

something beyond the scope of the OPs current knowledge abilities is wrong, they need to either bring it to a reputable saab mechanic or get on the phone with someone that can walk them through some steps to get a better idea what is going on.
11-20-2014 04:44 PM
Drew in Houston
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Originally Posted by g96nt View Post
Advanced like with a tech 2, obd2 logger or even a node light.

You know.. the kind of stuff that not every person has at their disposal

You can't possibly be that out of touch that you think every person has these things
Those are tools craig, not advanced ways to trace a problem.
11-20-2014 04:42 PM
g96nt Advanced like with a tech 2, obd2 logger or even a node light.

You know.. the kind of stuff that not every person has at their disposal

You can't possibly be that out of touch that you think every person has these things
11-20-2014 04:30 PM
Drew in Houston You guys are funny. Without the OP performing some actual tests/checks y'all are just guessing.

Craig for one has no idea what he's talking about, like normal. I didn't say that it's "uncommon for resistors to fail", what I was actually communicating is that size and the way these circuit boards are built make it impractical to solder new resistors in place. I'm super curious in what exact "advanced ways" he thinks the car should be checked lol. I know that I've successfully soldered on these boards, it's not worth it.

I made a suggestion about checking fuel pressure with a generic gauge that anyone can borrow for free from just about any parts store, but that was too much troubleshooting for the OP.

If you really want to try a new engine controller, like I wrote in the first post, find someone to program one. MikeD on here comes to mind as being capable. The guy's managing to post on the interwebs all the way from Paoli, indicating they have the electricty there so I assume they have mail service there to. There's one screw holding the engine controller in place.
11-20-2014 03:58 PM
seriks1 bad gas? pretty easy to pop off a line and take a sample
11-20-2014 12:30 PM
nowhereman he is in Paoli, Indiana

anyone have any advice or know someone in that area?

like g96nt said it sounds like something in depth electronically
11-20-2014 07:02 AM
g96nt If it is flooding, it is likely an ECU issue.
The Injectors are likely sticking open and spraying.
It's most-likely a short on the board that's grounding the injectors.

Where are you? I'm sure we can find someone relatively close to help you out.
11-20-2014 04:23 AM
Maria's Dad Thanks, 96nt, That is the second guy who has advised me to sell a car when it has problems. The first one was years ago when I took it to him for a tune up and he couldn't get it to run smooth. At this point, I know I have fuel at the injectors and the plugs are getting fire. It will run sporadically, but not longest than a few seconds. It's flooding now. I realize that this is beyond my limited skills, I just can't find anybody to work on it. The guy that was diagnosing it won't come back says his brother is dying.
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