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11-29-2004 07:44 PM
ricot83 well look at it this way ... the auto Hot's came with 185lbft of tourque so u figure i am around 30 more lbft than taht.... so that would b what 240 in a manual
11-29-2004 07:06 PM
DC_SAAB seems a little light for torque...but definately respectable. I just thought SAAB's torqued higher than HP as a standard...

regards
11-29-2004 05:33 AM
ricot83 i have no clue what stock torque to the wheels was but when i dynoed i put 217lb ft... my car is an automatic
11-29-2004 03:59 AM
DC_SAAB How bout your torque numbers...any change?
11-28-2004 08:36 PM
ricot83 im sorry to bring back such an old post but i totally forgot to write and respond here again.... i did dyno and i put down around the same hp as his stage 4 car.... 219 whp to b exact... and i dont have software yet....... its very odd.... i am gonna get a dp and then possibly dyno soon after spring
09-12-2004 08:48 PM
DC_SAAB Have you re-dyno'd since installing the larger housing? I'm very curious to know if you feel any better bottom end response with the larger exhaust housing.

Your about the closest to getting statistics relative to which is best...at stage 4. I'll tell you stage 5 feels like pretty soon...just rounding up more parts....after dynoing again for my LSD.

regards
09-07-2004 12:40 PM
ricot83 i have just put on a 6cm housing on my viggen turbo(2001 9-3 se)..... now there seems to b more top end... much more tope end actually it pulls real hard high up
09-07-2004 12:35 PM
DC_SAAB Just a thought .... but if you build for torque, HP will come...

Torque get's you off the line.., while HP helps you sustain higher top-end ...
09-07-2004 12:31 PM
DC_SAAB Dosen't Eric have an ECU that pushes up to 7K..possibly more?

If you put your Aero Turbo on with 6cm as opposed to the 5cm/Viggen.., won't you in effect be pushing your HP/Torque curve up the RPM scale? If not disturb the flow rate on your bottom-end?

Guess pushing some of the HP up wouldn't be a problem.., but messing with your bottom-end torque without considering the appropriate IC, ECU, DP or exhaust might be more trouble than it's worth.

But since you won't be needing that 5cm/Viggen turbo, I'll take it off your hands.

regards
08-18-2004 11:34 AM
ricot83 ok saab4life me and u both have the same turbo, a td04-15t 5cm turbo (the viggen turbo)

erp is running a 9000aero turbo which is the same but with 6cm housing

i am also thinking of doing this but need to find an aero turbo
08-18-2004 07:09 AM
mike saunders 00-02 SE engines, 205bhp, had the "high output turbo" H.O.T. designation to distinguish them from the 185-hp predecessors...

The turbo is the TD04HL-15T, with the head improvements made on the 99 Viggen, i.e. better flow and Nimonic coated exhaust valves...
08-18-2004 05:53 AM
Blaque
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Originally Posted by abdukted1456
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Originally Posted by Vigge
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Originally Posted by saab4life
so what do i have exactly?
Edit, I dont remember under which name the european 9-3 "AERO" was sold in the states. That model also has TD04HL-15T stock.
9-3 SE

2002 model is called the "turbo anniversary edition".
I've checked his VIN number, and he does have the B205R which uses the TD04.
08-18-2004 05:50 AM
abdukted1456
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Originally Posted by Vigge
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Originally Posted by saab4life
so what do i have exactly?
Edit, I dont remember under which name the european 9-3 "AERO" was sold in the states. That model also has TD04HL-15T stock.
9-3 SE

2002 model is called the "turbo anniversary edition".
08-18-2004 12:38 AM
Vigge And here are some pictures from a TDO4-15T
http://hem.passagen.se/terria/turbo.htm
08-17-2004 11:59 PM
Vigge Here are some WHP vs. EGT plots from one tuned B235R (9-5aero).
Look at the EGT, they raise fairly rapid around 300BHP





08-17-2004 11:54 PM
Vigge
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Originally Posted by saab4life
and yes i have the stock 205hp.. so it must be the TD04 15
Can you look up your engine code B20XX? B205R is the one with TD04
Even with the TD04-15 #5 maxed out you will have a hard and bumpy road to reach 300BHP.
08-17-2004 11:46 PM
saab4life and yes i have the stock 205hp.. so it must be the TD04 15
08-17-2004 11:45 PM
saab4life i am to assume that i have a td04 and not a gt17.. it just seems way to small of a turbo for me to have
08-17-2004 11:11 PM
Vigge
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Originally Posted by saab4life
so what do i have exactly?
Here is a complete list of turbos that saab uses or has used

Model Year EnigineCode BHP Turbo
900 94-98 B204L 185 hk T25M
9-3 98.5-99 B204E 154 hk T25M
9-3 98.5-99 B204L 185 hk T25M
9-3 99 B204R 200 hk T25M (different. wastegate acutator)
9-3 (Viggen) 99 B235R 225 hk TD04HL-15T
9-3 00- B205L 185 hk GT17
9-3 (Aero) 00- B205R 205 hk TD04HL-15T
9-3 (Viggen) 00 B235R 230 hk TD04HL-15T
9-5 98- B205E 150 hk GT17
9-5 (Saab trim kit) 98- B205E 190 hk GT17
9-5 98- B235E 170 hk GT17
9-5 (?) 98,5- B308E 200 hk GT15
9-5 (Aero) 00- B235R 230 hk TD04HL-15T

You should have the GT17 stock on car. Have you changed it with stage IV to viggen turbo TD04HL-15T? This part remained a mystery to me

If you are sitll using the GT17 then there is no way in hell that the car will ever produce 300hp no matter what you do.

Edit, I dont remember under which name the european 9-3 "AERO" was sold in the states. That model also has TD04HL-15T stock.
08-17-2004 10:23 PM
saab4life so what do i have exactly?
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