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07-28-2005 08:56 AM
rcmdesign The timing on the 900 N/A is done within the ECU and can only be advanced from there. The distributor itself cannot be modified to advance the timing.
07-28-2005 06:29 AM
DeLorean so you are basically saying that the timing on an NG 900 is fixed and can not be adjusted at all? hrrumph.. that's odd *runs to the EPC*

yes I see that oddly enough the distributor clamp is in fact part of the distributor. that's probably a good thing because it means people can't screw with it too much yeah, not only is it not a good idea on an NG 900, but it looks like it CAN'T be done!
07-28-2005 01:13 AM
slaab4life
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
I am sorry if I sound crabby in this post, but it really was just one thing right after another by you n/a guys that just made no sense...
Hey man, we're cool, we're cool. We're just discussing some stuff and minding our own business....and trying to get any little bit of power we can out of our freakin' NA engines. Next modification: speed holes in the hood just like on Homer Simpson's car. Pics and instructions to come!
07-27-2005 08:03 PM
BurnsSide42 this whole thread is an odd one which should have a warning lable - do not attempt if you aren't prepared for failures This whole concept makes little sense to me personally and I don't see why you need to be tweakin the distributor on a ng900 - oh wait - no turbo..... yeah, you guys need to stop looking for silly ways to gain power and just give in to the good side
07-27-2005 07:50 PM
rcmdesign
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
and another thing Rob. if you have every removed your distributor before, your timing is now off. the distributor rotor is fixed as you noted, however the timing setting is based on where the rotor is pointing inside the distributor body. When the distributor body is rotated even by a hair, it changes the setting. The way to set the timing is to un bolt the distributor body and rotate it while the engine is running and observing your timing light on the timing marks . if you removed the distributor chances are good it's either too far retarded (which would make your car slower than it already is) or too far advanced (which would make your car knock and ping).
Well I have taken the distributor out before, and it only goes back in ONE WAY, so therefore you cannot advance the timing or retard the timing. They thought about this already, it's in the haynes manual also.
07-27-2005 07:25 PM
DeLorean I don't know where you guys get these ideas firstly this whole "hotter spark" is complete fiction... By turning the distributor one way or the other, you are either going to advance or retard the timing. to check this accurately, you will need a timing light... I am not sure what the stock setting is on a NG 900 n/a but it's probably around 14 degrees BTDC. also, the stock setting is just right for your ignition system. depending on inputs from your knock sensor and the RPM signal the ECU will advance the timing as far as it is safe to do so AUTOMATICALLY! If you were to just un bolt the distributor and spin it 10 degrees advanced the ignition would no longer work correctly, the engine would constantly knock and you would have a good chance of blowing it up in a few weeks time.

I guess the moral here is if you don't know what the hell you are doing, don't fuck with shit

and another thing Rob. if you have every removed your distributor before, your timing is now off. the distributor rotor is fixed as you noted, however the timing setting is based on where the rotor is pointing inside the distributor body. When the distributor body is rotated even by a hair, it changes the setting. The way to set the timing is to un bolt the distributor body and rotate it while the engine is running and observing your timing light on the timing marks . if you removed the distributor chances are good it's either too far retarded (which would make your car slower than it already is) or too far advanced (which would make your car knock and ping).

I am sorry if I sound crabby in this post, but it really was just one thing right after another by you n/a guys that just made no sense...
07-27-2005 07:13 PM
Passion4_900 Correct, the only way to play with timing on a C900 is with the vacuum diafragm on the turbo version's distributor. I bet it would fit on an N/A N/G900..! Other than that, it's the ecu you want to reprogram
07-19-2005 01:14 AM
slaab4life
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Originally Posted by adidas_007
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k first off, what does the whole disclaimer part have to do with anything
Leave frying an engine to a pro.

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lol so confused
all to easy
Hence me asking about it here first. Perhaps the vehicle the article was about was a C900. Their timing could be advance right? IIRC the main method of advancement was vacuum control..
07-18-2005 07:37 PM
PaulH
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Originally Posted by adidas_007
Leave frying an engine to a pro.
i couldnt have said it better myself

Paul
07-18-2005 07:24 PM
adidas_007
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k first off, what does the whole disclaimer part have to do with anything
Leave frying an engine to a pro.

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lol so confused
all to easy
07-18-2005 06:59 PM
ricot83 Rob although that is true, that is not entirely true for the NA cars, u can turn the distributor to advance timing., u can do this on any car with a distributor, for the most part
07-18-2005 06:54 PM
danthegolfer
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Originally Posted by adidas_007
Any stunts seen or read on this forum are performed by or under the supervision of professionals. And should not be attempted or recreated at home.



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Lois: And look, there's no engine! It just has a drawing of an engine! Car salesman: But it only had one previous owner....James Bond!
Peter: I'll take it!
I remember that episode. Funny thing about that is that the car drove three feet before the wheels fell off.
lil jon voice: WHAAAAAAAT?

k first off, what does the whole disclaimer part have to do with anything.... second i dont know what episode or w/e ur talking about... lol so confused
07-18-2005 06:43 PM
adidas_007 Any stunts seen or read on this forum are performed by or under the supervision of professionals. And should not be attempted or recreated at home.



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Lois: And look, there's no engine! It just has a drawing of an engine! Car salesman: But it only had one previous owner....James Bond!
Peter: I'll take it!
I remember that episode. Funny thing about that is that the car drove three feet before the wheels fell off.
07-18-2005 06:31 PM
rcmdesign The only way to advance timing on our cars is to remap the ECU, Jak Stoll does this, on my to do list...
07-18-2005 06:22 PM
iwantaviggen
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Originally Posted by ricot83
not a hotter spark, but u r advancing or retarding the timing... that s all..
thats what i was thinking but i keep hearing 'hotter'
07-18-2005 06:00 PM
ricot83 not a hotter spark, but u r advancing or retarding the timing... that s all. on old muscle cars this is what u did.
07-18-2005 05:47 PM
danthegolfer i remember reading about that somewhere too, but i also remember being confused as to how you would attain a hotter spark... i nany case due to what rob just said i guess is impossible..
07-18-2005 05:25 PM
iwantaviggen i dont understand how it would give you a hotter spark.... more contact between the points?
07-18-2005 04:29 AM
rcmdesign It was on cardomain before. I've removed the distributor before and looked at. It's set on a special offset, so it can only be installed one way, so therefore you cannot mess with the timing.
07-18-2005 03:54 AM
slaab4life
Distributor rotation equals hotter spark

Has anyone heard of this? I read somewhere that if you loosen the distributor retaining bolt and rotate the distributor (can't rememeber if top towards you or away), it will result in a hotter spark. Has anyone heard of this and what would be the benefits of doing this?

Thanks.

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