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04-24-2019 02:36 PM
saabdrifter You can order a Kicker 6-3/4 that will work great with factory amp.

The factory sub in a 2ohm DVC. Kicker makes both a 2 ohm and a 1 ohm DVC. Crutchfield has them on sale BTW.

I am running the the 2 ohm version so I can run it off factory amp, or run in series to my aftermarket amp.
04-19-2019 06:25 AM
Originally Posted by saabdrifter View Post
Yes, Kicker 6.5 in factory sub box in my wagon.

I did not cut box at all. I did drill new mounting holes. I used used speaker gasket to seal against raised edge in box. Fit and seals well.
After doing some research, I realized that there alot more options out there in 6.5 inch than I thought. I'd much rather do that than modify the box to fit something bigger.

Is the Kicker a dual coil matched to the OEM specs? I suppose if you're running it from an aftermarket amp, it doesn't really matter.

I want to do the same thing. With running a new amp, I'm not sure if I should continue using a dual coil or just a single coil. I know very little about car audio.
03-25-2019 02:50 PM
saabdrifter Found a great little spot in my wagon for a pair of Audio Control Micro amps.
03-25-2019 02:37 PM
saabdrifter Here is the budget wagon sub
03-25-2019 02:21 PM
saabdrifter Yes, Kicker 6.5 in factory sub box in my wagon.

I did not cut box at all. I did drill new mounting holes. I used used speaker gasket to seal against raised edge in box. Fit and seals well.
03-19-2019 05:21 AM
Troup Can you elaborate on how you installed the sub in the factory location? I want to do this on my wagon, but not sure of the proper way to install it. Is this one an 8 inch? I think my stock one is 6.5 if I recall. I was thinking about dremelling out whatever I needed to to make an aftermarket one fit in the enclosure.
03-14-2019 10:36 AM
saabdrifter Progress as of now.

Replaced JL W3 sub with a W7. That required a big power upgrade. Replaced 800w amp with a 1500w Audio Control.

Very happy with performance, now on to finalize the install. Been working out amp rack installation designs. Stay tuned for more photos

Also installing a budget system in a 9-5 wagon(my DD)

And a refresh of an old 9000 Aero build.
11-15-2018 11:02 AM
saabdrifter Tweeter mount for stock dash location. Will be doing something different, have not decided on what just yet.

Front door speakers using modded 9-3 rings. Lots of sound deadening.

Single JL in factory box. Good enough for me.
11-15-2018 10:30 AM
saabdrifter First step

Battery and power cable

Getting through firewall
11-15-2018 10:29 AM
saabdrifter The Saab
11-15-2018 06:57 AM
11-15-2018 06:09 AM
9Kwrecker Sounds like a nice build, I would love to see some pics of some of this stuff. I host my pictures on imgur, it's free.
11-14-2018 04:10 PM
saabdrifter I decided on the Kenwood because of feature vs price. They are a great value and had some features other units do not have. F&R camera inputs are one cool feature. Backup camera is a nice idea, especially for a wagon. And I'm playing with the front camera. I found a camera with IR illumination for cheap, or could point it down for curb/parking.

I am working on pics, any suggestions for hosting as all my PB stuff got deleted?
11-14-2018 04:00 PM
Trionic3000 How about some pictures?

What made you go with the Kenwood?
11-14-2018 03:28 PM
saabdrifter I was really into car stereos in the early 90s. Even did some competitions. My ears payed the price. One system had 6 12s, ouch.

Not being a kid anymore, I wasn't looking for crazy bass. I checked out a bunch of subs and decided on a JL audio single 12" in a factory HO Wedge box. Plenty for me and as a bonus, it fits well and I still have access to spare tire.
11-14-2018 03:17 PM
saabdrifter I was super bummed about the power wire, but I had been working on it so much, I had to give it a test run.

I ran RCAs and two speed wires from trunk, up right side to dash and foot well.
I soldered speed wires to factory amp connections. I connected RCAs and amp turn on lead. Tedious, but I like solder rather than butt connectors.

I then installed ground wire setup. One 1/0 cable connected to right inner sheet metal. Then distribution block with 4awg and 1/0 cables to amps.

For the positive, I installed a temp distribution block and 2 temp 4 awg cables.

Installed the fuse. We have power!

Now, for some quick tweaks using laptop before I connect the speakers(cross over setting to prevent blowing anything)

Connecting was quick and easy. Decided on good starting cross over settings. All good, now for level setting. I set subwoofer amp checking for input clipping, then set gains using output clip detection. Then backed it off some(way too powerful)

Now I used pink noise to check and set inputs to mids and highs. When all checked out, it was time for a test run.

WOW! Most setting were great, mids and highs were very clear and clean. I reduced rear speaker power to about 20%. I then got the specs for my fronts from Focal. I then made some cross over adjustments relating to these specs. Now it was getting good. One full power test run and I called it a night. More work ahead.
11-14-2018 03:00 PM
saabdrifter With mu amp rack mocked up, it was time to feed them.

Finding a way to get power through firewall proved tough.

I thought about sending power cable through firewall with ECU wiring, but decided that idea was rubbish. There had to be a better way.

With wipers, bulkhead cover, glove box and lower panels removed, I examined the firewall, there had to be a way.

Well, I found it. My car had a small hole with plug on left side, right next to hood cable. I removed plug, it was foam insulation. I used a long probe to poke through the insulation and went under dash to check clearance. Perfect! Lots of room. I used a step bit to slightly enlarge the hole to fit a snap in plastic grommet. Then used a 3/4 hole saw to cut a nice hole in insulation. Ran the wire on left side in factory wiring protectors. Got it all the way to the trunk, when I realized it was too short. Bummer, will correct this later.
11-14-2018 02:53 PM
saabdrifter The rear doors were a giant pain. I an not a fan of cutting metal, so I needed adapter rings. Local shop wanted $150 a pair, decided to do it myself, with some help.

I had a fab shop make me some 1/2 thick rings out of ABS. Then on to modding and mounting. Thought I had a great setup, Until I went to mount door panels, not even close. Lesson learned.

More trimming and fitting, and I was able to make them work. Next system will either get 4 inch replacements, of 6x9s in rear shelf.

Speakers done, now for POWER!
11-14-2018 02:48 PM
saabdrifter I started mocking up an amp rack in trunk. I made a template out of cardboard, then made a temp one out of scrap particle board.

Then on to speakers.

The fronts were pretty easy. I could not make them work with either version from a 9-5. So I used ones from OG 9-3. A bit of trimming and they fit well. The tweeters were a toss up. Mod the grill and run pods, cut out the door trim, or make custom mounts in dash. I chose to mount them in the dash. I used factory 3 inch as a template and a sheet if thin ABS. Worked great. May need to revisit this to correct some imaging issues bouncing sound off windshield.

On to the rear doors
11-14-2018 02:42 PM
saabdrifter I started out researching components and shopping around. A local shop has been a huge help in this. I also bought a bunch of Audio Control gear. Enough amps for two systems. One setup with DSP and two very large amps, and the other with a DSP and to micro amps.

Game on! Now to start gathering up more gear.

For front speakers I settled on a set of Focal 6.5 components. Not crazy, but mid level. I also bought a set of 6.5 in coaxials for rear doors(mistake, but worked through it)

The amp for this build is huge, so finding a 4 inch speaker that could take it as near impossible.

I ordered a RF wiring kit with 1/0 cable, fuse and distribution blocks, RCAs ect.

Now for the fun(I mean work)
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