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Old 03-07-2004, 09:24 AM   #1
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a few questions from a potential owner!!

Well, I've been browsing the forums waaay too much the past week, so I decided to finally register and ask a few questions myself. Right now I'm looking at a 1996 900S, with 87k on it. The initial price was 3500$ but upon getting her looked at up at the local Saab dealership, she needs about 3500$ in work. The main things being the fact that the o2 sensors are shot, and she needs a new clutch. Some other parts are questionable, such as three bent rims, and a bad muffler - along with the two front tires needing to be replaced. With all the problems in mind, I'm getting the car for dirt cheap, and it's up to me to fix up. The way I see it, I might as well put the best in her, so here's a few questions I have....

1) What sort of exhaust should I be looking at? Right now i'm thinking i'll probably just replace the muffler, as I don't have the funds to completely overhaul the exhaust, and with it being a N/A is the Sports Exhaust overkill?

2) I've seen a lot of topics on wheels etc., but I'm more interested in how certain rims have held up (namely the AT Italia Inox rims) and the size tire that people have fit on them. I'm looking at 17s, and I want the most tire as possible, without rubbing of course!

Thanks in advance, hopefully soon I'll have some pictures to show you guys!!
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hey - welcome aboard! Glad ya chose us to join up with. This Saab sounds to be in need of some TLC. Can you do any of the work yourself on the car? That would save you much $$ on labor... Otherwise - what's dirt cheap? $1200 :P Sounds like a good car tho overall - strange the O2's are bad at 87K tho. But things happen. I suggest a good tune up with those O2's and maybe get the ECU reset. You may wanna do that tho after you get an exhaust. Is this manual or auto? Color? Seats leather or cloth? Any sort of "system" in it? lol Hope ya get it tho man - those cars are nice. You can do MANY suspension upgrades too later along the line to make it corner really tight. Tweeks is/has done this with his ng900. I'll look fwd to the pics and more details - hope some more help links are posted for ya. Check out some of our backers for the goods, I think some of them have exhaust. Also - check here for the O2's: www.Eeuroparts.com great parts site. ENJOY!
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First, thing, If you wanna spend $7,000 I would go straight for a 97-98 900SE Turbo.

And you may not really need to change the O2 sensors. You may just need to take them out and sand some rust off. It could be causing a bad ground.

Exhaust I would go with a nice Stainless unit, that way you needn't worry about replacing it again.

I think for a 7inch wide rim, I would go with the 215/45/17s And find something with a stiff sidewall. I gather that 91 or higher is good.

Also check out this post on SaabCentral. We convinced the guy to get the turbo model for a bit more. And I think he was pleased.
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25717
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25622
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i have the italia inox wheels on my car in 17s with 215/45/17 tires and they are great very durable and i have also lowerd my car 1.4" and with those size tires and wheels they do not rub
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Thanks for your input everyone. I've read the post where you convinced the guy to get the turbo, unfortunately not 'everything' is in my hands. I'm 16 and this is my first car, so I'm stuck w/ what we have in this Saab. And for those wanting more information - it's a red manual, clean as can be outside and in... just not in such mechanically sound shape.

"System" wise, that's what i'll be putting my personal money into, my parents are paying for the saab, and w/ the repairs done are hoping to spend ~4000. I have about 1000 saved up that'll be going into the system for sure, and I'm spitting out some of my own cash in order to get 17s and better tires.

Hopefully I'll have this car soon! Just got a digital camera also so you guys can expect PLENTY of pictures !

And in regards to the turbo... as tempting as it is, I can't afford it - plus with it being my first car, I'd just kill myself!
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i have the italia inox wheels on my car in 17s with 215/45/17 tires and they are great very durable and i have also lowerd my car 1.4" and with those size tires and wheels they do not rub
Much obliged TK900SE, just the information I was looking for!
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I recomend the Bridgestone Potenza SO-3 tires. And a rear stage 2 (22mm) rear sway bar from www.GenuineSaab.com for some extra handling.

Please take the learning curve on the car slowly. A post on Central a few weeks ago got locked. It was about a youngin who took his car way to fast around a curve, panicked and wiped out big time.
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also on the exhaust question you have it wont be over doing it becouse it will help out with your air flow i have the saab stainless steel sport exhaust on mine not only does it sound good but it also has a lifetime warranty from saab which is nice if somthing happens to ruin it then your not payin for another
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Welcome to the site!! Glad to see all newbies.

I actually think you may be able to find a better car for the money..sorry to say. In fact I would highly suggest you check out this link. Keep in mind that Im sure you can get the price down a little less if you personally contact the dealer and im sure car shipping is only about $500.

Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2464355726

As for the car your currently looking at, it seems just like what Burnside said...in need of TLC.

There are a few drawbacks however:

The clutch is a major job if done by Saab. I mean major because like others have said...it will run you about $1000. Of course if there was any way at all you could do it yourself, a clutch is only about $180. Thats a huge savings.

Second, the exhaust.... I may be able to sell you my old muffler as I just got a full 3" system, and its just sitting in my friends garage. If you ever plan to upgrade your full exhaust system, then I wouldn't go any larger than a 2.5" since you have a N/A.

Lastly, the AT Italia rims are very nice, and are strong. If you go with any 17" rim, I suggest sticking with a 40 profile tire. This should provide ample rubber yet stiff on the corners.
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My advice to you: DONT GET A N/A saab.... its a waste of time. Find a good turbo one.
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dude, he's 16, i had a fast car when i was 16 and totaled it because i liked to go fast, it is MUCH better to get a non-turbo car when young then save up for another car with a turbo, or if you love your baby to death, do a motor swap, but he does not need a turbo just now

also, like burnsside and blaque out said, the car does need some tlc, and will take a little bit to get it road worthy, but trust me, you will be much happier with it after, than if you got a car that was ready to go, espcially if you do it yourself, more satisfaction.

as for the system, i'ev got a really nice one in mine, cost about 1,200 total, and installed it all myself, i think you'd like it, i'd discribe it more if you want

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dude, he's 16, i had a fast car when i was 16 and totaled it because i liked to go fast, it is MUCH better to get a non-turbo car when young then save up for another car with a turbo, or if you love your baby to death, do a motor swap, but he does not need a turbo just now

also, like burnsside and blaque out said, the car does need some tlc, and will take a little bit to get it road worthy, but trust me, you will be much happier with it after, than if you got a car that was ready to go, espcially if you do it yourself, more satisfaction.

as for the system, i'ev got a really nice one in mine, cost about 1,200 total, and installed it all myself, i think you'd like it, i'd discribe it more if you want

welcome to the site by the way, and where are you from?

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You pretty much took the words out of my mouth in regards to the turbo, I know I'd kill myself. I'll be going fast enough as it is in a N/A! Location wise, I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio.
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There is a meet going on in the Cleveland area on May22.
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shhhh, don't tell him that, i'm trying to get him interested in going to your mmet tweek

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Or if you want, there will be a convoy going to Tweek's Meet on May 8th leaving from Iowa and Passing through Chicago, Indiana, Ohio, PA and up to Syracuse.

You could join up.
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wish I could go... damn sister graduating in Maine... ugh...
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Thats a good plan Ced.

Bring your car down and we'll mod it for you in the parkinglot.
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I'll see what I can work out. First things first though, need to give my baby a little TLC.
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I'll see what I can work out. First things first though, need to give my baby a little TLC.
Definately see what you can work out...we'd love to have ya at the meet.
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yes, i too would love to see you at the meet, you could give blaque_out your cell phone number, and he could call it when he is within an hour of cincinatti or something like that, either way, try hard to get to the meet

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