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Old 07-24-2013, 10:54 AM   #1
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Door speakers

My 99 SE has a blown door speaker. I'd like to replace it with something plug and play that's inexpensive and at least as good as the factory unit. Any recommendations?
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Mail order... Parts express might be your cheapest bet, probably find a midbass driver for $20-40. Spend a bit more and it will be much better quality

Or just head to your local audio shop and see what they have.
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Unless you replace the single blown one with OEM, you should probably replace the pair.

Crutchfield will tell you what mid-bass speakers fit in the OEM mounts. We just put some Soundstream mid-base speakers in my son's car, but we had to make new mounts for them as they wouldn't fit in the OEM ones. You can't mound directly to the door, you have to use the spacer or the window will hit the speaker magnet when you lower it. Also, any water that makes it through the window seals will drip on the speaker also.
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Thanks for the tips. I read somewhere that the speakers were 8 ohm, is that true?
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My hertz Mille ml1600's went in my viggens doors without any mods..... Zero clearance issues

I did load up the doors with sound deadening stuff but no mods other then that.
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You need to pull the door cards off and check what ohms the speakers are as saab changed them all the time. But, any good 4 ohm mid bass will work fine if keeping stock amp.
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Doesn't the stock amp expect a 2 ohm load?
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:33 AM   #8
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I guess I'll pull one of the door panels off this weekend and see what's in there right now. I was rather mad when I popped the speaker grill off and realized that the door panel has to come off to do something as simple as changing speakers. After that initial anger I quickly realized that the speaker grill wasn't supposed to come off either and became even more angry.... dumb design.
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I guess I'll pull one of the door panels off this weekend and see what's in there right now. I was rather mad when I popped the speaker grill off and realized that the door panel has to come off to do something as simple as changing speakers. After that initial anger I quickly realized that the speaker grill wasn't supposed to come off either and became even more angry.... dumb design.
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:38 PM   #10
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I pulled the door panel off and took the speaker out to see what I needed. As you can see it is 4ohm, 50w max, just shy of 3" deep, and has a connector for plugging up.

Anyone know where I can get an adapter plug so I don't have to hack the wiring at all?
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I just went to radio shack and got some small spade connectors to make a harness to go between the OEM connector and the connector on the new speakers. just plug the spades into the openings in the connector in the car. On other jobs, I took the OEM connector off the old OEM speakers and mounted it on the new speakers the same way it was mounted on the OEM. Your choice.
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Sounds like a good idea, I have to check my stock of speaker wire/connectors. I'm hoping to move the connector to the new speakers. Gotta pick the speakers first, any thoughts on using these? Amazon.com: Pyramid W64 6.5-Inch 200 Watt MidBass Poly Woofer: Car Electronics

It seems that 6.5" midbass woofers aren't very common.
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It seems that 6.5" midbass woofers aren't very common.
That's what we found out as well.

The stock amp isn't pumping crazy power. You can put in a speaker that can handle 200W but you'll be under-driving it. Sound will come out, and you're not likely to blow it from over-driving it. If that's good enough for you, then those speakers will work.

I've read that some people get a coaxial speaker that's rated closer to the power output and put them in, then just clip the wires to the tweeter. I'm not sure that's necessary though, as the amp is only sending a bass frequency signal to the door speakers anyway.

I'm admittedly no car audio expert though.
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That's what we found out as well.

The stock amp isn't pumping crazy power. You can put in a speaker that can handle 200W but you'll be under-driving it. Sound will come out, and you're not likely to blow it from over-driving it. If that's good enough for you, then those speakers will work.

I've read that some people get a coaxial speaker that's rated closer to the power output and put them in, then just clip the wires to the tweeter. I'm not sure that's necessary though, as the amp is only sending a bass frequency signal to the door speakers anyway.

I'm admittedly no car audio expert though.
This, don't clip the tweeters as the sound being sent is low pass anyway.
Or buy a component set, and just use the woofers.

I've heard good stuff about Partsexpress and the speakers they carry.
But I've never used them. Car Audio Speakers in the Speaker Components Department at Parts Express | 30

I also used cut down spade connectors to connect my after market speakers to the stock harness. Then once I went with a new deck and amp, I removed the factory connector altogether.
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I hadn't thought about buying a set of components and just using the drivers. Or could I get a set of components and replace the tweeters in the dash as well?
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You could throw the tweeter s in the dash, they are powered off the head unit.
So you'd have to use the supplied crossovers to make sure they only get the high frequencies.
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I hadn't thought about buying a set of components and just using the drivers. Or could I get a set of components and replace the tweeters in the dash as well?
You can. I did this in my harley (which actually has a retarded 2ohm system); midbass in the fairing then a separate tweeter bar. Also did it in my vette with the crappy bose system (also a crappy 2ohm system).

Friend of mine has components with tweeters in the dash and I can't tell the difference between the sound of that and replacing the crappy 3.5" with a quality coaxial (like Boston S35s I had at one time). The speakers in the dash are coaxial, not tweeters alone, so if you got a component system you could add tweeters and delete the coaxials or keep them; your choice.

Your best bet is just getting a midbass driver; they do exist, they're 4ohm and far more popular than 2ohm, and you won't need to get a pair of the "best money can buy" to do the job; you won't be even close to RMS for an aftermarket "name brand" set of midbass drivers. Get the best deal you can on a set of good quality and call it a day.
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I think that might be what i end up doing. Those Pyramid speakers are less than $13 a piece, and should fit the bill. Even if they're under driven they should still "bump" at least as much as the factory units.
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If you're not going for anything crazy, and want your stock sound back, I think you'll be all set with that; and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised..... well anything beats listening to blown speakers, that's for sure.
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