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Old 05-29-2012, 06:20 PM   #1
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help! car just died new town

we were driving turned a corner and the car just died, wont start just cranks, what can i check?
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:51 PM   #3
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no gas.

Probably DI, though.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:12 PM   #6
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Bang on the bottom of the tank with your hand. If you look close there's actually a circle that's molded in the tank. The fuel pump sits right above that. Give it some good whacks while someone else cranks.

P.S. this is a solution for only the fuel pump not the di.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #7
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Just got home by taxi , I'll get some gas and go back and try it (banging on the fuel pump)in the morning. The gauge was reading a bit over a 1/4 tank...what's the DI?
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the ignition system that sits on top of the engine. the black direct ignition
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:55 PM   #9
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Hoping it's the fuel pump...there were no electrical smells whatsoever, would that be a symptom of the di failing?
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no DI will just die. i haven't had one completely die on me. only had one DI that would over heat and misfire. cool off and run fine the heat up and misfire again. but according to others they just die with no notice. no smells
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Try looking up the San Diego Saab Club on Facebook. One of those guys might be able to lend you a spare DIC for testing or point you to a good shop down there. I'm up in south Orange County but not really familiar with any Saab shops outside of Continental in Oceanside, and I think they closed their doors.
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I had this happen in my Viggen about a month ago. It was the fuel pump.

My best guess for your car: fuel pump or Crank position sensor

Either way, both are unfortunately going to be hard to fix on the side of the road. If it's the DI, it's 4 torx screws and 1 clip and your back on the road.
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Ditto on the fuel pump. They give little warning before they fail, and often die when you're low on gas due to insufficient cooling.

When mine died in the NG900, I was able to coast into a parking lot.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:37 AM   #14
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I've sent a join request to the saab club, and will go over and swap the di from the 9-5 to see if thats it.
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It's definitely not the di, I swapped it out with the one from the 9-5. It was pretty silent when I turned the key, couldn't hear the Fuel pump engage...but I can't say I noticed it before either
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the crank position sensor is one torx 20 bit then easy removal but most times its rusty and a bitch to get out. i'm not sure how hard the 9-5 pumps are to replace but yeah wouldnt be surprised if it was the pump good luck
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My fuel pump gave me about a year warning before it pooped... it would have really long cranks in the morning, until one day, it was completely dead and failed to start. I switched it with the Walbro 255 and long cranks were gone.

Also had a DI fail on me... that also showed a warning 2 days before letting go. I was getting random misfires while driving. Shut the car off and went into the bank to use the ATM, went to start it back up, dead.

Listen for the fuel pump priming when you turn the ignition to the on position (the step before cranking it over). It should be a faint whining or buzzing noise that lasts about 2 seconds. If it's not making any noise, it's either your CPS or your pump. Check voltage at the fuse box by using a multimeter on the fuel pump fuse. Turn the key with multimeter hooked up, see if there is voltage. If you have voltage, then the pump is shot. If no voltage, CPS is shot.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #18
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Now that you mention it, it did crank for a while before starting. It was a combination, fuel pump and CPS. It's purring like a kitten again, and now we're a member of the local car club
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