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Old 11-23-2011, 12:53 AM   #21
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:25 AM   #22
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*Update*

Hey there guys,

O.K, All my clutch gear is due to arrive next week.

And I'm getting nervous, as "gearbox day" edges closer and closer. (early March)
More excited than nervous. I keep telling myself "the first time is the worst".
I'm sure I'll be an expert the second time round.,....... Anyway,

Do you need to "break in "a Viggen clutch or can I stand on it straight away.

I know you need to break in a paddle clutch (1000 klm) not sure about the Viggen.

I'm sure I'll take it easy anyway , but was curious

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Every clutch requires a break-in period; just try not to slip it too much and don't hammer on it for a couple hundred miles.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:09 AM   #24
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My viggen clutch kit just arrived.

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Warning: Possible stupid question

Ok,
As the day draws closer I just want to make sure I know as much as I can,SO
I was reading somewhere that I will have to mark the sub-frame spots to make sure it goes back in exactly the same spot.

Is this correct?

I would imagine that the sub frame could only go in one spot because it is guided by the 6 bolts holding it.

Or is there a bit of "play" where the sub-frame mounts up and it can move around a bit.

Have I got any idea what I'm talking about?
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There is play when it comes to putting the subframe back on. I took a really small punch, or you can use anything, to score the outline of the subframe on the car.

It's not 100% necessary, but it helps with the alignment and stuff.

Also, with the subframe off (including control arms), the strut assembly will be able to move. There is enough play to carefully pull the halfshaft out of the trans without touching the axle nut. Just be sure to support the weight of the halfshaft with some wire so it's not just dangling.

Be sure you have a good ball joint separator. That was the most annoying part of the job for me.

I don't know if you have it, but replace the release bearing (the "slave cylinder" on cable operated transmissions).

Try to get another set of hands to help if you are alone. They don't have to be skilled but someone who doesn't mind getting dirty. Doing it alone is frustrating but possible. I've done it alone the last few times now.
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There is play when it comes to putting the subframe back on. I took a really small punch, or you can use anything, to score the outline of the subframe on the car.

It's not 100% necessary, but it helps with the alignment and stuff.

Also, with the subframe off (including control arms), the strut assembly will be able to move. There is enough play to carefully pull the halfshaft out of the trans without touching the axle nut. Just be sure to support the weight of the halfshaft with some wire so it's not just dangling.

Be sure you have a good ball joint separator. That was the most annoying part of the job for me.

I don't know if you have it, but replace the release bearing (the "slave cylinder" on cable operated
transmissions).


Try to get another set of hands to help if you are alone. They don't have to be skilled but someone who doesn't mind getting dirty. Doing it alone is frustrating but possible. I've done it alone the last few times now.
I'll mark the sub frame with a metal scribe before I start.

Gee, that release bearing sleeve sure is expensive ($170). Its about the only part I don't have. Would I get away with not changing it do you think. Or is it a "must do". I'll get one if I have to

Edit: Sorry Mark,
I think I got mixed up with a release bearing and a release bearing sleeve
I have the release bearing (SKF) but was going to use the old sleeve.
What do you think?

I also have one of those "forked chisel" type ball joint splitters.
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forked chisel isn't too nice to the rubber boots sometimes. I actually use a small 2 jaw gear puller. You can also get specific ball joint pullers.

On the frame alignment, don't sweat-it too much, if it's not alligned correctly 1st time there's nothing stopping you from putting it back on jack stands, loosening the bolts, and then prying the subframe to readjust it until you're happy.

If you're still on a cable clutch you might consider going hydraulic, it's sweet.
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forked chisel isn't too nice to the rubber boots sometimes. I actually use a small 2 jaw gear puller. You can also get specific ball joint pullers.
I wholeheartedly agree with Drew. I used to always tear up the boots with the forks. Even a cheap puller is worth the investment unless you already bought some new boots.

Something like this:
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Thanks guys,
I'll get one of those gear pullers
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Hey guys,
What about this style of puller? Its real cheap too.

Ball joint seperator by BERGEN AT583 | eBay
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What about this style of puller? Its real cheap too.

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Yep, that's the style. Don't know if that partcular one will fit but that's the idea
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I just watched a u-tube vid where the hits the ball joint with a hammer.

Has anyone had any success doing this ?
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My only concern with that style is wouldn't the half shaft be in the way?

I have generally always rap the ball joint area in the past with a hammer to loosen it up a bit. I've never really hit it too hard though.
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I just watched a u-tube vid where the hits the ball joint with a hammer.

Has anyone had any success doing this ?
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Yes...thats how I always do it. Hit the spot where the spindle goes through the steering knuckle then use a large pry bar between the subframe and over the top of the control arm to free the joint.
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^ yep, I've never had a puller, that has always worked for me. They really like to stick in there some times.

I've also taken the nut off and put my jack under the joint and lifted it up and down a few times. I'm not sure if it helps or not. Make sure your jackstands are secure...
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:04 AM   #37
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excellent, I'll give the hammer method a go then.

The other day I was trying to find where I could buy "P.B blaster in Sydney. (Can you believe that the Blaster group is an Aussie owned company, Yet P.B blaster is nearly impossible to buy here)

Anyway, I stumbled across this "penetration" study on a Mazda blog and thought it was interesting.

Copied from an aircraft builders forum:

Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.
Significant results! They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque
required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.
*Penetrating oil ..... Average load*
None ..................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .................. 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............. 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ..... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds
The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.
Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

MMMmmm..........
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Yeah it works. Just shake it up good before you use it.
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Yeah it works. Just shake it up good before you use it.
The home brew mix you mean ?
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The home brew mix you mean ?
Yup. I usually end up using PB blaster or something because its in a handy aerosol can that you can actually spray into hard to reach areas.
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