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Old 04-17-2009, 12:45 PM   #1
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First off I want to change the fluid in my tranny Is a 2000 Viggen. I heard that Red Line is real good. ANy advise wold be great. How much do I need, what is the best, can I order it soon? Thanks -Matt
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:59 PM   #2
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I used saab's 0063 trans fluid in my 2K viggen. The MTL/MT-90 I threw in my SPG, zero experience with how it works in a viggens trans.

If you do decide to use it I have some I would like to sell since I do not use it anymore in my SPG.
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Do you have MTL or MT 90?
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I currently have MTL in my tranny, works great, shifting seems smoother. I have had it in there for almost a year now, and will get it analysed when I change it.
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First off I want to change the fluid in my tranny Is a 2000 Viggen. I heard that Red Line is real good. ANy advise wold be great. How much do I need, what is the best, can I order it soon? Thanks -Matt
1.8 Quartz I believe. I just go ahead and use two bottles.
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I just threw in 2 qts as well, its fine.
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2 quarts will do fine.

I used MTL in my 900 (when it had the 900 trans) and it didn't really hold up too well to the abuse the motor dished out. The Saab MTF0063 I used in the 9-3 box thats in it now has been much better in my opinion.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:36 PM   #10
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2 quarts will do fine.

I used MTL in my 900 (when it had the 900 trans) and it didn't really hold up too well to the abuse the motor dished out. The Saab MTF0063 I used in the 9-3 box thats in it now has been much better in my opinion.
How did it not hold up, lab results showed that? Tranny blew? please elaborate.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:51 PM   #11
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I think the MTL is too light for a 9-3 gearbox, so it might be better to use the MT90. Double check the specs of the gearbox against what redline recommend.

FWIW I run MTL in my 1988 900 Aero and it is great, but it might be too light for the 9-3. Another friend down here ran MT90 in his 1992 900 Aero S gearbox.

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MTL is compatible with Saab's earlier synthetic transmission oil, so it would make sense to me that MTF-0063 would be somewhat of an improvement. I've had Redline MTL in my transmission for a few years now and it's been fine, at least as good as the earlier synthetic, which was better than the plain old motor oil my '97 had from the factory. If or when I change it again, I might go for MTF-0063 since the price seems to have come down over the last few years.
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I think the MTL is too light for a 9-3 gearbox, so it might be better to use the MT90. Double check the specs of the gearbox against what redline recommend.

FWIW I run MTL in my 1988 900 Aero and it is great, but it might be too light for the 9-3. Another friend down here ran MT90 in his 1992 900 Aero S gearbox.

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MTL has a CST of 10.9 and Saab 0063 has a CST of 10.3 if I recall correctly. CST (centistokes) is a unit of measurement of how thick oil is. The MTL is actually thicker than the Saab OEM stuff. What are you basing that MTL is too light for the 9-3 gearbox ? Links? Articles ?
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How did it not hold up, lab results showed that? Tranny blew? please elaborate.
I can't say for sure if it was the oil itself, but shifting became progressively more difficult till I swapped transmissions. Judging by the large amount of metal shavings in there though...
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I've tried them all.....go with the 0063.

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I can't say for sure if it was the oil itself, but shifting became progressively more difficult till I swapped transmissions. Judging by the large amount of metal shavings in there though...
I would say you had a worn tranny that you added more power to, and at the same time put MTL in. Not to say the MTL could have caused this, but I would lean on the side that you had a worn tranny.

Ill have a oil analysis later this summer with MTL so we'll actually see how its showing up from the Lab. Not just people saying its good or bad.
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No doubt I had a trans that was a ticking time bomb. MTL only made the shifting worse... Just saying, I'd never use it again. The 0063 cost me less money and seems to work better!
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Yeah I remember that Mcrowley... Its funny how it transitions from a slightly more positive shift only getting rougher.

I think its best just to flush and throw in some good old saab fluid.
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:38 PM   #19
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Just drained saab synthetic tranny fluid after 60,000 miles. Had a little "roughness" i didn't like. Flushed and used Pennsoil syncromesh and it shifts very nicely... It was definitely worth the change...
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I've tried them all.....go with the 0063.

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So this one tastes the best?
Did you consume it in soup form or use it as a dipping sauce?
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