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Old 01-24-2012, 04:50 PM   #1
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How are early SS's holding up with age/mileage?

Let's talk 03-04 5spd's. How are they doing with 100k? 150k? What should one look out for on one of these with high miles?

Especially 2003's. What kind of first year problems do these have?
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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i heard the 03's were terrible. I heard they had alot of first year issues especially with the wiring.

cant remember exactly what the issues were.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:39 PM   #3
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I've also heard that 03's are shit, but can't really find much info on why they're shit.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:54 PM   #4
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I've got an 03 that I love. It's a 6-speed though, and the transmissions are crap. The only electrical problem I have is that OnStar failed somehow and the SID tells me everytime I start the car. I don't use the service so I don't care about bringing it in to get fixed.

There's also the problem with the resistance sensors in the window motors being too sensitive and not letting me close them when I want, but that's not just limited to the 03's.
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SAI Air pump failure is common & expensive on 03's only east of the Missisippi. Condensation fills the first model year only air pump up with water & it fails. I would Imagine most if not all o3's have had an a SAI pump replacement by now. The pump came back with the V6ss but doesn't have the same moisture problem that the 03 4cyl had. Blower fan/resistor failure. Balence chain failures are common lately with 150k plus 03's. The tensioner flies apart or the Duel mass style crank/ballencer drive sprocket fails. Water Pump failure, AMP2 is a peice of shit, The radiators that killed all the auto's were shit. This led to the Trans cooler seal recall. Engine harnesses are dropping like flies now too. Very expensive to fix. Basicaly I hate 03SS's Although each model year improved greatly. By 05 they were Alot better.
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SAI Air pump failure is common & expensive on 03's only east of the missisippi. Condensation fills the first model year only air pump up with water & it fails. I would Imagine most if not all o3's have had an a SAI pump replacement by now. The pump came back with the V6ss but doesn't have the same moisture problem that the 03 4cyl had. Blower fan/resistor failure. Balence chain failures are common lately with 150k plus 03's. The tensioner flies apart or the Duel mass style crank/ballencer drive sprocket fails. Water Pump failure, AMP2 is a peice of shit, The radiators that killed all the auto's were shit. This led to the Trans cooler seal recall. Engine harnesses are dropping like flies now too. Very expensive to fix. Basicaly I hate 03SS's Although each model year improved greatly. By 05 they were Alot better.
Wow, I've been lucky. 80k miles and none of the problems you listed. *crosses fingers*
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:25 PM   #7
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Radios can be an issue.

Our stock turbo quit right at 100k. It was a decently reliable car over all. Had front end clunks which wound up being sway bar end links twice and strut mounts once.
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I second all above comments, plus the build quality in general was very poor. Idk how many of those i worked on and it was like a preschooler put it together. Things would just fall apart. Chew up rear brakes like its going out of style, seats are completely shot in short order, all the buttons peal and come apart, upper front strut mount and bearing noisy after 100k, and the list goes on. I tell people to avoid early sports sedans like the plague. The one exception was the 04' Aero which always seemed to be well put together. Idk if it was better parts used or what but we rarely saw issues in those.
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i have plenty of experience with these cars from when they came out - i would never buy one. any year. any time somebody asks me my opinion on a sport sedan they're looking at buying, i find a nice 9-5 to recommend.
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yeah I remember I was with SAAB when they first came out the 03 was awfull we had so many bauy backs. I remeber alot of water under the front seat and the amp was a issue also the sid and the button peel
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I love my 03. its a spoilered brat but i love it. I read about the problems, and I just check on the promblem areas once a month. I check the SAI pump. But majority of my issues could happen to any other car.
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My cousin's 2003 Vector is doing fine; he's replaced a couple hub assemblys and done basic maintenance. Trouble free otherwise.
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:28 PM   #13
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So are 2004's better than '03s? Or did they start getting better in '05?

Been seeing 03-04's with ~100k in the $5k range...
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04 was definately better than 03s. Another thing to keep in mind a properly maintained 03 that came in for it's recalls and service campaigns can be as good as an 04. Then again rarely do you see a well taken care of SS. Most we see any more are beat to hell and neglected like no other. Common to see them come in with a bad PS pump, leaking water pump, locked up SAI pump and the reason its at the shop is because AMP1 got filled with water so no radio.
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bad PS pump.
haha completely forgot about that one! loved seeing the ones the customers completely neglected and the o-ring had completely failed allowing oil pressure to back feed into the resevoir and just overflow every where.... automotive ignorance is not bliss here people....
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I don't know any dealerships that are willing to touch 2003 9-3s. As far as i'm concerned they are all parts cars, because you can't sell them without screwing somebody.....
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I don't know any dealerships that are willing to touch 2003 9-3s. As far as i'm concerned they are all parts cars, because you can't sell them without screwing somebody.....
Yep. We junked our first one 2 years ago. Looks like a picked over carcass but it has made us money selling body parts off it.
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So for the sake of discussion, all else being equal, would you prefer a seemingly nice 2003 or a rougher 2004?
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