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Old 02-06-2011, 09:02 PM   #1
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Botched Brake Job

Simply SAAB: Independent SAAB Specialist in Pittsburgh, PA.: A botched 9-3SS brake job -or- one more reason why you should always have a SAAB specialist service your SAAB.

One more reason why you should only trust a SAAB specialist with your SAAB.
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Wow. So sad.
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Wow. Don't show that to my wife. I do the brakes on all of our cars and she doesn't trust me. Luckily I'm not as stupid as that generic shop and I have been the recipient of good advice and direction on the Link.
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I'm the same, Randy. Do all I can myself -- brake rotors and pads, but beyond that will take it to the pals at S&S.

All I can say is, wow. THanks for posting that up, Chad!
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lol, while whoever did that brake job is a moron, there is some pretty obvious dealer shill bullshit in your post.

turning rotors? perfectly safe, as long as you dont go below the minimum spec (curiously, the spec for the 96-98 900 is different than it is for the 99-02 9-3, presumably because saab/gm wanted more rotors to be thrown out due to being "unsafe"). and cost? i've never seen a shop charge more than $40 to turn a pair of rotors, which is less than 1/4 the cost of a new set of rotors from GS, and probably 1/5 the cost of a new set of rotors from a dealership/shop. also, the "grease"? anti-squeal. pretty standard for pads that don't come with anti-squeal backings. not sure why you thought it was grease, but ok.

thanks for the lulz though
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Well, turning rotors is perfectly safe as long as they are still within the minimum specification, though it looked like those were not even close. The more material that is on the rotor, the better they will dissipate heat, which = better function.

Castor troy must not know how much shops charge these days... with what most shops charge for turning rotors, it is frequently MUCH more economical to simply replace them with new aftermarket units, however shops don't like to do this as they don't like NOT making their $60-80 in pure labor cost for turning rotors.

The grease did appear to simply be brake parts grease, which is a normal item to find on a typical brake job.
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Turning rotors is perfectly safe, you can't get too thin tho.
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A thnner rotor warps much faster, thats why i dont suggest it. We charge 65ea for new non aero ss front rotors. They charged her the same ea to turn.
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i just called two shops here, and both were under $40 to turn a pair of rotors, which is significantly less than the $200 for a new set of 03 9-3ss 285mm rotors that GS charges.
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Rock auto has original equipment ATE front rotors for that car (03 9-3 SS) for $50 a pop. Want cheaper? They have that too, the "centric" brand- I'm sure is china-made, is only $34 each. Still think you should bother cutting em?
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Exactly. Spend $20-30 more and get new parts. Also, cut rotors seem to squeal more. Squealing never occurs when new pads/rotors are used.

Sure, I make a buck or two on rotors, but I also have to keep the doors open.

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Rock auto has original equipment ATE front rotors for that car (03 9-3 SS) for $50 a pop. Want cheaper? They have that too, the "centric" brand- I'm sure is china-made, is only $34 each. Still think you should bother cutting em?
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did you even read what he wrote delorean, or are you just being a douche for the sake of being a douche? let me quote it for you, since you obviously did not.

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absolutely there are cheaper rotors out there than the saab ones. what HE is saying is that it's the same cost to have a set of rotors turned as it is to replace them with OEM rotors. what I am saying is that he is incorrect, and that it will cost 4 to 5 times as much to replace the rotors with OEM rotors as it would to turn them.

if it's just a daily driven vehicle, and you arent taking it to the track or through hilly passes at a high rate of speed on a day to day basis, AND the rotors can be turned and still be within the manufacturer's tolerances, i see NO reason to replace them. save yourself the $150-200.
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I got quoted $15 each a week ago to get my rotors turned. As said above, nothing wrong with it as long as they're still in spec.
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I can see turning rotors if they are in good enough shape to allow such, but if replacing brakes is a once every 20-50kmi type of thing, I would just spend the $200 for new rotors. Then again, it would be awesome walking out of a repair shop with functional brakes for a really low cost.
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I got quoted $15 each a week ago to get my rotors turned. As said above, nothing wrong with it as long as they're still in spec.
Some things are just worth buying quality; tires, rotors, ammunition ...... They only have to fail once to ruin your day.
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Some things are just worth buying quality; tires, rotors, ammunition ...... They only have to fail once to ruin your day.
agreed...i'd trust an OEM $100/piece rotor turned once over one of those cheapo $15 piece of shit rotors brand new. a local 95 900se owner here in duluth bought a set of NAPA rotors for $50/set, and put EBC red stuff pads on them. almost immediately after the EBC recommended break-in (within 50 miles), the faces of both rotors were COVERED in microfractures. they were completely destroyed. NAPA warrantied them of course, because they were worthless as rotors.

the problem with delorean, and the problem with TSL as a whole, is that they dont understand the difference between being frugal, and being cheap.

frugal is taking a rotor that is quality, and turning it so that is provides a good bedding surface for new pads, while saving $100 or more.

cheap: takes the $15/piece rotors off of rock auto, and expects them to be great for a 200 lap race around laguna seca, and then is pissed when they explode 20 minutes in. a complete dipshit, who makes the rest of saab owners(and car owners in general) look like tools.
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also, in before a certain NESA member comes in and makes a comment about diversity and acceptance while he's laundering money through NESA
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also, in before a certain NESA member comes in and makes a comment about diversity and acceptance while he's laundering money through NESA
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The only cars I turn rotors on are my own. Customers will get new every time. I've turned rotors and had them warp withing 6 months and then I'm putting new rotors on for free for the customer. Much like alot of used parts anymore. The customers have caused alot of new stuff to go on when good usd is available but they don't understand that it was fixed more economicly with used and expect them to last like new and want full warranty for used. If they want me to warranty parts thay can buy new.
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I don't warranty noise or vibration when replacing pads only, or pads w/ turned rotors. If the rotors are worn enough to seriously need replaced we just use new ones, price difference is so close it doesn't make sense.

No warranty on parts if owner supplies their own parts, whether they're from Autozone, eEuro, or from Nick. Warranty is limited to my labor, I.E. the caliper will not be installed backwards.....
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