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Old 05-21-2008, 10:13 AM   #1
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60k Service

Our 9-3 just hit 60k.

On past cars, this can be $$$ as often they want you to replace the water pump and belts.

Is this the same case with the SS? I am just hopeing to not have a $1000+ service for this car.

The car is CPO. Is the waterpump considered a wear item? If so, I can just drive it till the waterpump goes to shit and have it fixed for free? Or will they deny it if the belt is not done which IS a wear item?
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Ramstein quoted me at $600 something for my car.

Haven't had it done yet so not too sure what it entails.
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Ramstein quoted me at $600 something for my car.

Haven't had it done yet so not too sure what it entails.

Reinersten :P

Sigh. I was hoping for something more along the lines of $300-400.

$600 I can live with though.
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Reinersten :P
I realized that after I posted.

I died a little inside when I got the quote, I think I'll just end up taking it to my regular mechanic when its time.
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I realized that after I posted.

I died a little inside when I got the quote, I think I'll just end up taking it to my regular mechanic when its time.
Its slim pickin around here.

We like Reinersten because of the free loaner car :P They also give us 10% off parts and labor so right off the bat it would be $540 based on your quote.
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you have a timing chain.

the waterpump is not a wear item.

the waterpump is driven by the balance shaft chain
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I know a good mechanic in Ewing, NJ, but that might be a tad far from you?
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I know a good mechanic in Ewing, NJ, but that might be a tad far from you?
We are living in NY, we only venture to NJ for service since the dealer there gives us loaners and is 5 mins from my folks.
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you have a timing chain.

the waterpump is not a wear item.

the waterpump is driven by the balance shaft chain
Good. That means it shouldn't need to be replaced unless it goes bad at which it should be covered under the CPO warranty
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another thing is that the fuel filter is inside the fuel pump and cannot be replaced seperatly so that's one less thing to pay for.
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Anyone have the complete list of whats needed for the 60k mile service?
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the waterpump is driven by the balance shaft chain
Sounds brilliant.
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Who was the Good mechanic in Ewing? It should would be nice to find a trustworthy mechanic.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:29 PM   #14
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Do plugs and air filter every 30k.

Every 60k do serpentine belt & tensioner, and automatic transmission fluid if you have an auto.

If I had one I'd do the auto trans fluid every 30k.

With the issues these having with the cooling system and where you live flushing brake fluid and fresh coolant would be a good idea if you're going to keep it another 60k, fresh coolant with it's restored anti-corrosion additives may make your water pump last longer.

Water pump is usually a 4-6 hour job depending on where you do it if it's done without removing the timing cover. Many dealer techs around here aren't willing to do it without pulling the timing cover though, too great a chance the balance shaft chain tensioner will click itself a tooth too tight when the old pump is removed (the holder tool for it is not very good), which turns out to be OK because broken balance shaft chain guides are not that uncommon to find on MY03 and MY04 cars.

Pretty much everything else is a don't-fix-it-till-it-breaks item on these.
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Plugs every 30K! Those are not a cheap item - why not just wait til 60K since they claim they are good for 100K? I am all for doing things sooner then later - but seriously, 30K for 100K plugs? IDK bout that.

Belts and tensioner are always a good thing to change @ 60K - much better then having it fail 10,000 miles later and having to be towed back in.

Fluids and filters - keep them clean and you will be as happy as the car otherwise.
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I did the plugs in our '04 every 15-20k, it's about $30 a set so why not?

Serp belt was every 15-20k as well.

Auto Trans fluid was every 30k as stated above, funny thing is that the Auto Trans Fluid is more than spark plugs... (I was paying $80 for 4 QT)

Never replaced the tensioner (it had 192k on it when we just traded it in). I actually still have the tensioner sitting in my garage that I had bought for it. It's just so hard to get out that I figured I'd wait for a failure and it just never happened. Maybe we were lucky...
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Belt tensioner is more a preventative thing in my mind, in the SS it only drives the A/C and PS, and no idlers, they seem to hold up pretty well, but I wouldn't want my wife stranded if the belt hops off or something like that.

Plugs went up, the PFR- plugs list out at about $18/ea now, I would do them every 30k because I have a feeling it keeps the coils from dying - coils just jumped up too, like $150/ea, seems like the only time I replace 4-cyl coils are on cars that have plugs that look like they're original to the car at around 90k. I tell my customers to do them at 60k, and at 30k if they drive the car hard, 15k if they drive the car really hard, same as with the older ones. T8 does ion sensing through the spark plugs same as T5/T7 did through the DI cassette, but the ion sensing is in it's own control module now.

For fluid, buy it from Toyota parts dept - it's a Toyota spec Aisin transmission, and Toyota makes a much cheaper JWS-3309 spec fluid that the 4-cyl SS takes. Should be about $6/qt, drain & fill usually takes between 4-5 quarts.

For 6-speed AF40 auto trans in the V6 cars use only SAAB fluid from the dealer, it's a one-trans-only formulation just for that transmission.
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