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Old 06-17-2012, 08:41 PM   #1
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Fathers Day gift (voucher)

Great day with the family! Val made a beautiful bound photo book of the boys from birth to present and a coffee mug with pictures of the twins. Truly touched me! I love it!

Boys had made framed pictures of themselves at least a month ago and never said a word about it until today. Spent the day goint to the annual Father's Day car show in Warrenton, Ethan and I cruised in the GTO (his first time). (Daaaaddeee! Don't go too fast!) (I didn't, but it's loud in the back seat!)

Grilled steaks, baked potato for dinner. Just a great day.

One of the gifts Val and the twins gave me is a voucher for a new head-unit for the '91 convertible. Blaupunkt is kaput. Question is, what to get? Don't want expensive or flashy -- anything to tempt one to cut the top to get to it. So the basics, but quality sound. I'm thinking a CD and iPod/iPhone interface and that's it. Would like to keep the face as plane-jane as possible, not interested in graphics. HU should be heard, not distracting...

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Old 06-17-2012, 10:34 PM   #2
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I have the Pioneer DEH 3100 in my 88 vert. I'll grab a pic tomorrow, the car is under a cover right now.

I got it specifically for the clean appearance, detachable face, great price at Crutchfield (plus included harness), green/white lighting, and front aux/usb inputs.

Pretty sure this model is discontinued but the modern offerings in the DEH line are pretty much the same. Most offer customizable displays that let you match the RBG levels to any color OEM dash.

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I've never been disappointed with anything from Alpine, I have their head units in most of my cars and I love them.
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I've heard great things about the Nakamichi CD400, but I don't think it has i-pod connectivity. Looks almost OEM though.
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Jim.....have you considered sending a head unit off to the saabradio.com guy for an auxiliary input installation? Granted, its not a real ipod/iphone jack, but its a regular auxiliary style input. You gain the ipod input, while retaining the OEM look.

I've heard good, and not so good about the saabradio dude in terms of turn around time, but for "purist" who wants that OEM look with modern functionality, it seems like a very cool, viable alternative.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:25 PM   #6
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I have the Pioneer DEH 3100 in my 88 vert. I'll grab a pic tomorrow, the car is under a cover right now.

I got it specifically for the clean appearance, detachable face, great price at Crutchfield (plus included harness), green/white lighting, and front aux/usb inputs.

Pretty sure this model is discontinued but the modern offerings in the DEH line are pretty much the same. Most offer customizable displays that let you match the RBG levels to any color OEM dash.

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I've never been disappointed with anything from Alpine, I have their head units in most of my cars and I love them.
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I've heard great things about the Nakamichi CD400, but I don't think it has i-pod connectivity. Looks almost OEM though.
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Jim.....have you considered sending a head unit off to the saabradio.com guy for an auxiliary input installation? Granted, its not a real ipod/iphone jack, but its a regular auxiliary style input. You gain the ipod input, while retaining the OEM look.

I've heard good, and not so good about the saabradio dude in terms of turn around time, but for "purist" who wants that OEM look with modern functionality, it seems like a very cool, viable alternative.
Thanks, guys, for all your suggestions. I like all of them. I have the Pioneer AVIC in the 9-5, and like it. Never have had an Alpine but have heard great things from them.

Same goes for Nakamichi. It really does look OEM. Very sleek. I like, but I don't see iPod either.

I have used SaabRadio in the past to replace and/or repair old stock HU's. I haven't used them to modify what I've got. Interesting thought there....
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I do have an Alpine unit in my 1993 900T vert. It was installed by the PO. Can't recall the model number, but it is a good sounding unit. They also installed Boston Acoustics speakers--(I plan to add a flat sub under the back seat). It's silver, so it doesn't really fit the c900 interior, but it has a removable face, CD player, and XM radio. I added the separate Alpine ipod interface to it (KCA 420i). The ipod unit is installed behind my lower cubby, and I ran the wire that connects to the ipod into the cubby itself. I have a lower-din cubby where the CD player used to be and my ipod resides there. You can control the ipod through the buttons on the Alpine unit itself--which is nice--but you can't control the ipod normally without unplugging it first--not so nice. The ipod interface charges my ipod and turns it off when the car is off too.
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Run a Scosche system! I mean, they sponsor the forum right? Must be quality stuff! Maybe you could get a discount or something.

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Wound up with the Pioneer DEH-P7400HD head unit. And while the Blaupunkt is being ripped out, I'm also replacing the dash.





Old dash coming out:


New dash waiting to go in:
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Nice!!!! Rip into that thing! The old dash doesn't look too awful.

If you didn't remove the steering wheel, be CAREFUL putting the new dash in. You need to tweak it prettywell to get it around the steering wheel. Don't wreck it on install!
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:37 AM   #11
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Yah, I know. Sucker is ON there! I'll work on it tonight.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:39 AM   #12
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Old dash is worse that it looks in those shots.

Take a look here:





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Is this your first dash install? If so, be careful not to tear the cardboard vent tubes to the outer vents. They are stapled on to the vent intakes. You need to pull the staples where the intake is connected to the vent body. It's also a good idea to extend the wires for the glovebox light before you put the new dash in. An absolute bear to install it otherwise. I also like to pop the top vent grills out before I install a dash so you can reach through the hole and reconnect the intake to the vent body easier. You can't pop them out if you have a wood dash though. They wont clear the wood overlay.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:48 AM   #14
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No, I've done a ton of 'em over the past 30 years.
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If you are going to pull the wheel, loosen the nut a couple turns but don't take it off. then grab the steering wheel by the top and bottom and rock it hard as you pull.

First time I removed a wheel, I took the nut right off first. The wheel came off like greased lightning.......straight into my face.

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VI009DZ, been there, done that. Got the bruise between my eyes.

I've been tugging on this thing for a couple of hours. Sucker is NOT moving. (nut is still on, backed off.)
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What you guys do with your nuts while you tug should be discussed via private message.
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Finally got it off. Also fixed an electrical hack job the previous owner had done. Honestly, what are people thinking when they start splicing in wires anywhere they think they can???
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what you guys do with your nuts while you tug should be discussed via private message.
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New dash is in, headunit is in, steeringwheel back on. Still have to put the console back in, but I'm beat. Going to bed. Finish it tomorrow.
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