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Old 01-28-2007, 12:30 PM   #21
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the flywheels can easily be installed incorrectly, making the timing marks about 45 degrees off if you are off by one bolt.

I'd suggest removing the clutch cover, and your #1 spark plug. bring that piston up to TDC, and check the timing marks. Once you verify that it is not right, just have to remove the clutch, put the flywheel on correctly, and re-install everything and re-time it.
I just messed with the distributor until it felt right.

Now the starter won't work. I had to have 3 guys push start me last night!
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I just messed with the distributor until it felt right.

Now the starter won't work. I had to have 3 guys push start me last night!
Egad you're having a bit of a bad run at the moment!

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It's always a bad run, thus my user name. I make up for it with lots of cars! Its a numbers game, you see!
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It's always a bad run, thus my user name. I make up for it with lots of cars! Its a numbers game, you see!
kind of like squirrel hunting with a machine gun......
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squirrel hunting...I get the odd feeling you're from Pennsylvania?
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I had to have 3 guys push start me last night!
Oh man, I know how you feel there hahaha Theres a short in my ignition somewhere (pretty sure its on the wire that runs from the relay to the key ignition inside). It continually drains the battery unless i unplug it. Have had to push start it so many times! Not good when there's cars queueing up behind you impatiently!

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I just messed with the distributor until it felt right.

Now the starter won't work. I had to have 3 guys push start me last night!
There's some mod you can do with the 99s that have a finicky starter (probably due to be being cooked underneath the exhaust manifold). Basically you install an old-style Ford external solenoid, like the Mustangs and Falcons used. In fact I even snagged a new one from my dad's '67 Mustang project when I put one in my '76 99 EMS 7 or 8 years ago. I forget exactly how it's wired in and that car is long gone, maybe some of the 99 guys would know. A few friends of mine have done it in their 99s and it works like a charm. It's a pretty inexpensive part you should be able to get at any auto parts store.
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These selenoids are pretty integral with the starter as far as I can tell, they engage/disengage with the flywheel when activated through a mechanical lever. You would probably have to use the whole ford starter and I'm concerned its the type that is constantly engaged to the flywheel. A mod to fix the overheated selenoids would be nice. They also freeze. It would be nice to just have it on the wall in the engine bay so you can hit it easier.

In other news the CIS problem has NOT gone away, I'm almost convinced it is just due to the weird fuel line routing the guy that did the engine transplant used. I'm going to make it 'stock' fuel line routing and see if that helps. If it doesn't I'm going strait to MS.
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These selenoids are pretty integral with the starter as far as I can tell, they engage/disengage with the flywheel when activated through a mechanical lever. You would probably have to use the whole ford starter and I'm concerned its the type that is constantly engaged to the flywheel. A mod to fix the overheated selenoids would be nice. They also freeze. It would be nice to just have it on the wall in the engine bay so you can hit it easier.

In other news the CIS problem has NOT gone away, I'm almost convinced it is just due to the weird fuel line routing the guy that did the engine transplant used. I'm going to make it 'stock' fuel line routing and see if that helps. If it doesn't I'm going strait to MS.
Can a starter motor from an early 900 be used in the 99's with 'B' motors? I'm guessing yes since 'B' motors were in 900's too until 1980.

There are places that sell the solenoids as new items - Oklahoma Starter and Alternator is one (they sell on Ebay). I've never dismantled a starter to replace a solenoid though.

I guess it depends how the wiring is configured.

As for fuel lines, I still want to replace all the stock injector lines coming from the fuel distributors in my 8V 900's with something better - braided lines with aero-quip or similar fittings would be good. Just don't know of any place here in Sydney that can do it. The stock plastic lines (esp. the clear ones going to the 4 main injectors) look incredibly brittle, but the ones made from black line seem ok.

Did the same sort of stuff get used in the very early 99's which had electronic fuel injection?

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I was wondering has anyone ever looked into the steel braided fuel line on the Porsche 924? I have one and it runs damn near the same CIS system but has the braided lines. Just an idea.
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These selenoids are pretty integral with the starter as far as I can tell, they engage/disengage with the flywheel when activated through a mechanical lever. You would probably have to use the whole ford starter and I'm concerned its the type that is constantly engaged to the flywheel. A mod to fix the overheated selenoids would be nice. They also freeze. It would be nice to just have it on the wall in the engine bay so you can hit it easier.
No, you don't have to use the whole Ford starter, I've done this and it works. Basically the remote solenoid assists the one that's already there, just mount it somewhere in the engine compartment. Let me ask a friend about it and get back to you because like I said the details are hazy, I did this about 8 years ago...
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:16 PM   #32
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The starter is the same on early H-motor style 900's. If the starter is under the exhaust manifold, it will fit. If its under the intake manifold, its backwards and won't fit.

I don't know why you guys think replacing the fuel lines is important. For the same price you can go with megasquirt.

Early 99's had a funny looking fuel rail and I believe little rubber things going down to the injectors. Most EFI systems are the same: pump, line, regulator, rail, return. Very simple.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:21 PM   #33
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mega squirt kit comes with lines?
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yeah the d-jet cars had a pretty lame metal line that they used as a fuel rail, with rubber bits running to the injectors, wich are real electronic injectors unlike those k-jet things.

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Old 03-07-2007, 06:23 PM   #35
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the rail hardly ever leaked. It was the injecters that leaked, the crimps on the hoses.
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nope, quite a bit more complicated on the k-jet cars, you'd need something like this:
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there would definitely be a bit of fabrication involved, not quite as easy as saabsbreakdown is implying.

VW's have the nice looking braided lines as well, might try and see if those will work.

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Old 03-07-2007, 06:25 PM   #37
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I was just shitting around The plastic lines do get brittle and break easy though
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I was just shitting around The plastic lines do get brittle and break easy though
yeah i figured

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The only thing you need is a rail which is cheaper than getting every CIS line replaced with braided lines. So I'm right. Haha.

Moonracer, if your like me, enough of those lines laying around to do snakes on a plain reinactments in your living room
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:12 AM   #40
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the plastic lines for us are getting scarce. The idea of the braided lines would just add a bit of class under the hood, something different.
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