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Old 01-02-2014, 05:20 AM   #1
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Wagon Suspension Overhaul

After driving around with badly worn tires from rear camber issues, I decided it was time for a suspension overhaul. I didn't take a whole lot of pictures because I only had two days of lift time, but here she is anyways.
Big thanks to Harvey for his time and patience while I got this done.

List of things accomplished:

H&R coilovers
Strut mounts
Strut bearings
Droplinks
Ball joints
Fronts rotors
Pads
Proparts Poly subframe bushings
Proparts "small" poly control arm bushings
Powerflex "big" poly control arm bushings
PFS ploy trailing arm bushings
Rose bushings
Inner cross stay bushings
Rear strut rubber bushings






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I'm certain I have to re-do the rear of my Wagon.
on anything but dry pavement, the rear is EXTREMELY skiddish.
I'm a ways away from buying the coilovers, unfortunately
Are the PFS bushings actually the ProPartsSweden bushings?

Also, I'm a little surprised you didn't lower it more...

oh... it looks awesome!
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I'm certain I have to re-do the rear of my Wagon.
on anything but dry pavement, the rear is EXTREMELY skiddish.
I'm a ways away from buying the coilovers, unfortunately
Are the PFS bushings actually the ProPartsSweden bushings?

Also, I'm a little surprised you didn't lower it more...

oh... it looks awesome!
Yea whoops! I hadn't had my morning coffee before I typed that out.

I would go lower but it is rubbing as it is now and chewing up my new tires. I am thinking this may have to do with the fact that we set the rear camber close to zero. I think if I get closer to -1 then I should have less rubbing.
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The rear is rubbing? I have 235/40/18 and I don't rub.
The fronts are a mess on mine, but the rears clear, just fine.

How did the bushing install go?
Harvey was a bit skeptical with mine, but I'm assuming he had good things to say if he installed yours.
Weird that you installed the powerflex big bushing. any particular reason?
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The rear is rubbing? I have 235/40/18 and I don't rub.
The fronts are a mess on mine, but the rears clear, just fine.

How did the bushing install go?
Harvey was a bit skeptical with mine, but I'm assuming he had good things to say if he installed yours.
Weird that you installed the powerflex big bushing. any particular reason?
Yea rear is rubbing like crazy, I actually stopped driving it it's so bad. I think my rear camber being set properly around -1 should help a bit. Right now I am at about 0

Bushing install was fine, the Proparts subframe bushings were a bit of a pain to get into the subframe but the others were cake. Getting some of the old ones out was interesting. Harvey didn't install them I did them all.

I used the powerflex bigger control arm bushing because the proparts ones were out of stock when I was ordering parts.
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the rear will stop rubbing once it rubs away the bumper plastic lol

edit- i think they forgot to reinstall the rubber part of the spring seat you have metal sitting on metal might be noisy

keep an eye on the pps bushings one of mine has developed a fairly big amount of play after only 3 months


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the rear will stop rubbing once it rubs away the bumper plastic lol

edit- i think they forgot to reinstall the rubber part of the spring seat you have metal sitting on metal might be noisy

keep an eye on the pps bushings one of mine has developed a fairly big amount of play after only 3 months

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I already removed the bumper plastic and I am still rubbing. MY issue must be that my camber needs adjusting closer to -1.

I made sure I installed the rubber seats so no issues there.
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Looks fantastic! The wheels and spoiler (just moved to the top of my parts list) Two questions..

Are those just the standard saab cross bars on the roof rails?

Are you shimming to bump out the camber? Or is there another way to adjust the camber on the rears..?
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Looks fantastic! The wheels and spoiler (just moved to the top of my parts list) Two questions..

Are those just the standard saab cross bars on the roof rails?

Are you shimming to bump out the camber? Or is there another way to adjust the camber on the rears..?
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The only way to adjust the rear camber is with shims. I got the Harbor Fright shim kit.
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The only way to adjust the rear camber is with shims. I got the Harbor Fright shim kit.
Stock it was around 2.25-5 degrees negative, now it has.125 shims on top of the hubs, maybe we should cut the shim width in half & it should land around 1.25 or so degrees neg.
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1/16th" shims dialed the rear in perfectly and now there is no rubbing whatsoever in the rear. The car is probably somewhere around -1 degree of camber.

The combination of new bushings, coilovers, and new tires make this car so smooth. The H&Rs provide excellent handling and at the same time plenty of comfort.
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Just an update for anyone rebuilding their suspension. DO NOT buy the blue Professional Parts Sweden Poly control arm bushings for your 9-5. There is a significant amount of play in the bushings that I just replaced a few months ago. I will be ordering the Powerflex tonight.
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Good to know. Any word on the off brand subframe bushings?
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No issues with the subframe bushings so far, at least none that I have noticed. I am going to check everything when I do the control arm bushings this weekend.
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I'll have to take a look at mine. Are you seeing uneven wear or are you pulling on them with a prybar?
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Great work, I hate the rear suspension issues with the wagon!
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