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Old 07-31-2014, 07:34 PM   #1
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H'okay so here goes (again). Went to get my hair cut and when I left I noticed the car took a little bit longer cranking before it turned over. Stopped at a bk for some fries and after the car turns over it immediately stalls out and dies and won't even catch. Swapped di's and checked all relays but nothing. Move onto the fuel pump, put 12 volts to the fuse and then the pump directly and no life from. Fast forward a few hours and I swap put the pump and the car turns on and I get it home. The next day after work I go to run an errand and after leaving the car dies at a red light and I have to roll it back into the parking lot. I swap in a stock ecu and it fires up. Theeeeen ten minutes later the car dies while driving, tried bump starting it but Nada end up leaving it on the side of the road. A few hours later it fires up again with no change that I made. I'm thinking its the cps?
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Is it old? That sounds like what I have heard for failures. Does the tach bounce when it cranks?
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The tach did bounce when it died at bk but later my dad was behind the wheel so I can't say
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CPS is easy place to start and not starting when hot is a common symptom of failure.
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This, easy fix. Also check your hot and grounds to the solenoid and starter. Chased that one for a long time and it turned out to be rust and ground issues when hot.

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This, easy fix. Also check your hot and grounds to the solenoid and starter. Chased that one for a long time and it turned out to be rust and ground issues when hot.
Even though the car cranks over? I'll be swapping it the CP's from my brothers 900 at one point
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Car would start and run. Go out and 20 minutes later no start. Would start up in an hour or two. New battery, cps, starter and that's when rust, cable issues noticed. New starter and clean rust, no issues since.
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Good to know thanks
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Found a cps in my basement from when I t5'd my dads vert eons ago, I couldn't get the one from my brothers car off. So far the car hasn't died while driving and successfully done three hot starts. I haven't looked at the starter leads yet but will when I get some free time next.
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yup definitely sounds like cps. those little torques can be a bitch to get off. i used to replace them with 10mm instead so the next time it wouldn't be so much of a pain in the ass
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Old 08-03-2014, 01:47 PM   #11
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Update: the car will consistently start and not die while driving so that's a plus! What I seem to be experiencing now though I feel rather hard to explain, when driving at 40mph in 4th for example applying consistent throttle to cruise the engine will hesitate/cut out. The car has never boosted past 10psi except when the bpc went bad but it won't misfire or buck under boost. My extensive search here and google seems too tell me its either the map, evap, or tps sensor. To start could someone tell me what these sensors should have for ohms?

Just an FYI too the car has a new CTS, fpr, silicone vac lines, plugs less than 5k ago. And have like 80 aic valves I can cycle through
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:23 PM   #12
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Car died this morning on the way to the house in Nashua from Hudson. The car had been on for a total of 15 minutes when it seemed like the gas pedal just stopped working. The car smoothly decelerated until it stalled out. Now it just cranks and cranks and cranks and cranks
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Saw that you were about ready to throw in the towel. Might want to reach out to Mike D, he's in your area.

My kid had similar fun, unreliable and 5 hours from me, and ended up with a Passat . I have the 9-3 now and worked thru no start problems, but AC just locked up two weeks ago. It now has a new compressor and cooling nicely. (Know that AC isn't a requirement in your AO, but its going to be 90 around here with 80% humidity).
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:03 PM   #14
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I'm still throwing in the towel. I'm done with this particular Saab
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:13 AM   #15
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Fucking relays man im tellin ya. Started with the t5 no start check list from the 9k section. I confirmed the ecu was getting volts and the cps was working. I then took a battery and applied volts directly to the fuel pump and sure as shit it worked. Confirned no power to the pump when cranking so I took the high beam relay and stuck it in the fuel spot and just like that it fired up. Im wondering if all the recent issues I was having were related to the relay slowly dieing
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Probably dude, fucking annoying. All good now?
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Probably dude, fucking annoying. All good now?
Cant say for certain yet. All I did was drive it from the street it died on to home then left it to do other things ill be driving it tonight to see how it goes
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Guess what the car did again?! Same symptom the gas pedal ceases to work the engine will come out of vacuum but stay at atmosphere. It also seems like the charging system is wrong but once it dies it doesn't have juice to turn over. I checked the positive lead on the starter and it seemed okay but who the fuck knows. Any insight at all would be greatly appreciated. I'm selling this car regardless so I'd like to have it running to make a little more
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Fuel pump, have some starter fluid ready and when it does this again, spray it in there to see if it fires, if so I would think these narrows it down.
Charge the crap out of the battery as well.
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Sometimes even charging a marginal battery won't get it done, see if you can borrow a good battery. How is the alternator? Get a multimeter, even a Harbor Freight special will work. If its not working/getting 14 volts, it will drain the battery which could cause the voltage to drop to the ECU, etc. I've had ignition switch electrical part go bad.

+1 on keeping starting fluid and see if it helps during no start. check all your vacuum lines and we just had one to the FPR that was bad throwing a code.
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