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Old 07-04-2009, 09:48 PM   #1
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The 9-5s AC has been blowing hot air for some time now, i tried to refill it with the R-134a refrigerant a week or 2 ago. I even bought the gauge that tells you if its empty or full. I put a can in and it really didnt do much and the gauge said it was full. Fast forward to today when i was investigating the the stupid creaking noise, with the pass wheel off i noticed the ac compressor wasnt turning, the belt was moving but for some reason the inner part of the pulley was just stationary, any ideas?
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:16 PM   #2
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:24 PM   #3
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idk, i hit it with a wrench and it started to spin but then stopped. Maybe the gauge i bought is wrong and there just isn't enough R-134a in the system. I dont want to over do it though
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:24 PM   #4
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dead compressor , need to get a new one ))) about 850 for a good used one with waranty.Clutch on the compressor is dead so easiest(cheap) way is to get used one , new from 1600$ and up.I duno if you can rebuild one , anyway i think that even rebuild will cost you more then used one.

Not hard to replace your self , just need to pump refrigerant out first and get new O-rings for tubes.
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:28 PM   #5
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my first one died around 130k miles , second one (used) 190k miles , so i made 60k miles on used one ))) i think its very good for florida .
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:34 PM   #6
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the car almost has 200k miles, for some reason it seems like as it gets closer to that mark, shits starting to fail lol,
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:41 PM   #7
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dead compressor , need to get a new one ))) about 850 for a good used one with waranty.Clutch on the compressor is dead so easiest(cheap) way is to get used one , new from 1600$ and up.
Wow no.

Try 544 for a brand new on from eeuro. Used are cheaper then that.

In fact, my brother just bought a used one off ebay with a warranty for 175.
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my 205k miles )))

yep , needs alot of attention.Basicly if you keep the car it will become new))))))))))
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my 205k miles )))

yep , needs alot of attention.Basicly if you keep the car it will become new))))))))))
eh, slowly but steadily, last month i replaced the fuel pump, now im replacing the sway bar links, eh i still love it though
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yep my mistake new from 544, and used one 150 or so))) lol lol lol))))))
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:49 PM   #11
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for the past year :

water pump
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ac compressor
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gaskets,hoses,o-rings in many different places)))))))
and much much more that i cant remember)))

i think i spend more time under my car then i spend at work))))
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:03 AM   #12
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you wouldnt happen to know if the ac compressor on an NG is the same as the 9-5? im pretty sure its not and its a shot in the dark, but i happen to have a NG compressor hah which i cant get the lines off of i might add
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:48 AM   #14
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and why are you up so late or up so early
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look what i found

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compressors seize if you run them without refrigerant for an extended period, as it is the lubricant.



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Before you just go out and buy a compressor, make sure the clutch is trying to engage. if not, you may have other problems.
If the compressor is seized and the clutch tries to engage, all kinds of evil things happen.

I dunno what kind of gauge you bought, but most of the time they read "full" when the compressor is running.
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Before you just go out and buy a compressor, make sure the clutch is trying to engage. if not, you may have other problems.
If the compressor is seized and the clutch tries to engage, all kinds of evil things happen.

I dunno what kind of gauge you bought, but most of the time they read "full" when the compressor is running.
Damn 18 replies and this is the first person to help BEGIN to diagnose.

All AC compressors (that I know of) have a center section that does not spin when the clutch is not engaged. You need to see if the ac system is "calling" for the clutch to engage or not. I believe there is one single wire to the compressor that is fed +12 volts to engage the clutch. I'd check for the required voltage, see if its there. If it is NOT, I'd jumper 12 volts to it while the car was running and see what happens.

I've seen cars whose ac system was empty not call for the compressor because the charge was so low. So in order to get them to draw any freon in at all, you had to jumper the compressor to get it to run.

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