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Aero02 · 08-13-2008, 03:00 PM

So... go to drive home this morning and my key won't start the car. The SID is displaying "key not accepted", and the key will also not lock/unlock the doors with the remote. When I bought the car, used, from the dealer I only got the one key. I was told I would receive another one, but never heard anything and really forgot about it... until now. How totally fucked am I? Is this something that my CPO warranty would cover? From what I know of the TWICE unit, there is now no way to program a new key without a working one... right? So I think I need a new TWICE and two new keys??

Any ideas? The woman I talked to at the dealer had no idea, and I've been waiting to get a call back from a tech for a few hours now.

SAAB9-3USA · 08-13-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aero02

So... go to drive home this morning and my key won't start the car. The SID is displaying "key not accepted", and the key will also not lock/unlock the doors with the remote. When I bought the car, used, from the dealer I only got the one key. I was told I would receive another one, but never heard anything and really forgot about it... until now. How totally fucked am I? Is this something that my CPO warranty would cover? From what I know of the TWICE unit, there is now no way to program a new key without a working one... right? So I think I need a new TWICE and two new keys??

Any ideas? The woman I talked to at the dealer had no idea, and I've been waiting to get a call back from a tech for a few hours now.

well that just sucks

GenuineSaab · 08-13-2008, 04:01 PM

You can get a used Twice and key set.

I have removed the code chip from a crushed integrated key for a local customer and put it an ebay transponder. 16p surface mount IC, half the size of my pinky nail.. nasty job but it worked. Saved the customer quite a bit.

Aero02 · 08-13-2008, 04:53 PM

Hmm, so you're saying that I could possibly take just the coded part of my key and put it into a blank? I already had the thing apart and nothing appears to be wrong... I just don't get it. It wasn't damaged in any way. Tried a new battery(that the dealer wanted like $35 for.. $2 at batteries plus) hoping that was it... bleh.

I also don't get how I can just be SOL that my key randomly dies and that its not a warranty item? Thats what the nice folks at Saab USA told me. I still haven't heard back from the dealer, and I probably won't unless I go down there. They suck.

If I'm looking for used TWICE and key sets, does it need to be a certain year? I have a 2002, will any 99+ work or 02-05? And it can just be married via TechII or what? Thanks for the input Nick.. this is seriously frustrating and no one I've spoken to so far seems to know/give a shit.

srp · 08-13-2008, 05:24 PM

Is part of saabs CPO program to include two keys with the car?
Do you have it in writting that they owe you a key?

Stephen Z · 08-13-2008, 07:41 PM

press the trunk button as you turn the ignition or before , its happened to me when i left my sunroof open and it rained . it freaked me out at first

jssaab · 08-14-2008, 07:24 AM

Could be the recver in the ignition. Take it apart there is a littel antenna wire there see if there is any problem

ALso I think My dealer said 02 and above ( or maybe it was 03) that you can reporgram the TWICE with no keys...

Aero02 · 08-14-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jssaab

Could be the recver in the ignition. Take it apart there is a littel antenna wire there see if there is any problem

ALso I think My dealer said 02 and above ( or maybe it was 03) that you can reporgram the TWICE with no keys...

Thanks, I'll try that. My dealer has, so far, been extremely unhelpful. They literally told me 'I don't think there is anything you can do.'

I had to bring up the fact of replacing the TWICE and was told 'that might work'.... Jesus.

It would be awesome if I didn't need a new TWICE... broke doesn't even begin to sum up my financial state right now.

Aero02 · 08-14-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Z

press the trunk button as you turn the ignition or before , its happened to me when i left my sunroof open and it rained . it freaked me out at first

Wow, thanks. Fucking eh. I got it to start doing this, even though I had already tried holding the unlock button(which is what my manual said). So yeah, thanks again!

Now, what ended up being the problem when this happened to you? Did you just get a new key made? Or is it that wire that Jssaab mentioned, since you said you left your sunroof open in the rain. I called the dealer and told them what happened, and they had never heard of trying it and still had no answer. Before I go down there and deal with them I'd like to know what you figured out. They key still fails to lock/unlock the doors or open the trunk remotely, but at least I can drive!!!

Stephen Z · 08-14-2008, 06:23 PM

I cleaned the antenna and the tumbler. And lubed the tumbler with electronics cleaner and lube

08-13-2008, 03:00 PM	#1
Aero02 Live, eat, and sleep by TSL Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,857	Key not accepted... So... go to drive home this morning and my key won't start the car. The SID is displaying "key not accepted", and the key will also not lock/unlock the doors with the remote. When I bought the car, used, from the dealer I only got the one key. I was told I would receive another one, but never heard anything and really forgot about it... until now. How totally fucked am I? Is this something that my CPO warranty would cover? From what I know of the TWICE unit, there is now no way to program a new key without a working one... right? So I think I need a new TWICE and two new keys?? Any ideas? The woman I talked to at the dealer had no idea, and I've been waiting to get a call back from a tech for a few hours now.

08-13-2008, 04:01 PM	#3
GenuineSaab Nick Taliaferro Elder Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Springfield, MO USA Posts: 3,232	You can get a used Twice and key set. I have removed the code chip from a crushed integrated key for a local customer and put it an ebay transponder. 16p surface mount IC, half the size of my pinky nail.. nasty job but it worked. Saved the customer quite a bit. __________________ Nicholas Taliaferro To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2.0 GOOSE 500whp + 8500rpm = 11.06 @125 E85 Viggen 439whp / 447tq 12.43 @114 on Gt2871.64, (Now 511whp Gt3076) Nordic E85 9-3 SS Aero 320hp / 350ftlbs

08-13-2008, 07:41 PM	#6
Stephen Z Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Woburn,Ma Posts: 425	press the trunk button as you turn the ignition or before , its happened to me when i left my sunroof open and it rained . it freaked me out at first __________________ 2001 93 SE Vert 2001 95 Aero 1990 SPG

08-14-2008, 06:23 PM	#10
Stephen Z Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Woburn,Ma Posts: 425	I cleaned the antenna and the tumbler. And lubed the tumbler with electronics cleaner and lube __________________ 2001 93 SE Vert 2001 95 Aero 1990 SPG

08-13-2008, 04:53 PM	#4
Aero02 Live, eat, and sleep by TSL Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,857	Hmm, so you're saying that I could possibly take just the coded part of my key and put it into a blank? I already had the thing apart and nothing appears to be wrong... I just don't get it. It wasn't damaged in any way. Tried a new battery(that the dealer wanted like $35 for.. $2 at batteries plus) hoping that was it... bleh. I also don't get how I can just be SOL that my key randomly dies and that its not a warranty item? Thats what the nice folks at Saab USA told me. I still haven't heard back from the dealer, and I probably won't unless I go down there. They suck. If I'm looking for used TWICE and key sets, does it need to be a certain year? I have a 2002, will any 99+ work or 02-05? And it can just be married via TechII or what? Thanks for the input Nick.. this is seriously frustrating and no one I've spoken to so far seems to know/give a shit.

08-13-2008, 05:24 PM	#5
srp Elder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northwestern NJ Posts: 5,109	Is part of saabs CPO program to include two keys with the car? Do you have it in writting that they owe you a key?

08-14-2008, 07:24 AM	#7
jssaab Elder Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,930	Could be the recver in the ignition. Take it apart there is a littel antenna wire there see if there is any problem ALso I think My dealer said 02 and above ( or maybe it was 03) that you can reporgram the TWICE with no keys...

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