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Old 06-20-2008, 12:53 PM   #1
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My car is pissing me off!!!

My car is broken again! I got the car back almost 3 weeks ago from getting the 1-2 synchronizer plus second fixed. I also had the clutch replaced also since they had the transmission out. Total cost was just over $2000.

Well yesterday, i was driving home from work and the car started making this funny noise, then i saw a very light gray smoke coming from under the hood, then the steering wheel locked up on me. I pulled into a parking lot just to see a trail of some fluid on the ground. I looked under the car and the power steering fluid was just poring out. It looked like a friggin' waterfall the way it was flowing out.

I don't know guys...this thing is starting to piss me off! Just the fact i just spent 2 grand on it and now this happens...plus 4th gear is making this whining sound whenever 4th gear is engaged. I told the place that fixed my transmission about it and he said when they had the car apart, they didn't find anything wrong with it. I bet you anything they didn't even look at it. I asked my mechanic friend about it and he said it could be the bearing.

In one way, i just want to get rid of it cause who knows what will happen next, but another part of me doesn't want to because i love the car so much. I really do love my aero, but it's digging me deeper and deeper into a hole of debt.

What do you guys think?
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Hmm dude thats nothing I spent like 6K on my car and I only bought it for 4 man. Where in boston do you live I live in dorchester probably we could meet up one of dem days and check your car out.Beging after you get this problem checked out. I have a few places you could go to have it checked out and not pay the stealerships price. The guys are just a good as the saab maybe even better.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:45 PM   #3
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My car is broken again! I got the car back almost 3 weeks ago from getting the 1-2 synchronizer plus second fixed. I also had the clutch replaced also since they had the transmission out. Total cost was just over $2000.

Well yesterday, i was driving home from work and the car started making this funny noise, then i saw a very light gray smoke coming from under the hood, then the steering wheel locked up on me. I pulled into a parking lot just to see a trail of some fluid on the ground. I looked under the car and the power steering fluid was just poring out. It looked like a friggin' waterfall the way it was flowing out.

I don't know guys...this thing is starting to piss me off! Just the fact i just spent 2 grand on it and now this happens...plus 4th gear is making this whining sound whenever 4th gear is engaged. I told the place that fixed my transmission about it and he said when they had the car apart, they didn't find anything wrong with it. I bet you anything they didn't even look at it. I asked my mechanic friend about it and he said it could be the bearing.

In one way, i just want to get rid of it cause who knows what will happen next, but another part of me doesn't want to because i love the car so much. I really do love my aero, but it's digging me deeper and deeper into a hole of debt.

What do you guys think?

that's a good deal for a bebuild and clutch BTW

The only thing you need ot find out did they use Saab Synthetic MTF ( manual Transmission Fluid) it is actaully very important for smooth operation ( took me a few months find that out BTW)

The other sound like your serp belt went and took aout the water pump. Was the Belt replaced at 60 K intervals like required???
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that's a good deal for a bebuild and clutch BTW

The only thing you need ot find out did they use Saab Synthetic MTF ( manual Transmission Fluid) it is actaully very important for smooth operation ( took me a few months find that out BTW)

The other sound like your serp belt went and took aout the water pump. Was the Belt replaced at 60 K intervals like required???
I have no idea if the serp belt was replaced at the required 60k intervals. I bought the car with 91k on it with no service records. The car has 103k on it now. The carfax report on my car showed the owner before me had it serviced every 10k or so, but didn't say for what.
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The only thing you need ot find out did they use Saab Synthetic MTF ( manual Transmission Fluid) it is actaully very important for smooth operation ( took me a few months find that out BTW)
Are you replying to 4th gear....making that whining sound stop if i have the saab synthetic mtf in it?
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Well yesterday, i was driving home from work and the car started making this funny noise, then i saw a very light gray smoke coming from under the hood, then the steering wheel locked up on me. I pulled into a parking lot just to see a trail of some fluid on the ground. I looked under the car and the power steering fluid was just poring out. It looked like a friggin' waterfall the way it was flowing out.
Well i'm getting my car back today!! There was a hole in the power steering line so the mechanic just replaced the line...nothing serious.

I also had my oil changed too. He told me that i can get 10 - 15 thousand miles out of the oil he gave me. He said, "i don't know how often you're changing your oil, but you're wasting your money if you don't get at least 10k out of it." "Just check your oil every month or so and make sure it's at the level it should be at." Is that really true? Seems really high per change intervals. The oil is amsiol synthetic.

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...I really do love my aero...
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... Seems really high per change intervals. The oil is amsiol synthetic.

He gave me
a lot of newer cars that were meant to run syn oil will have owners manuals tell you to do 5-10k mile oil changes... I still change my 9000s oil every 3-4k with synthetic...
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Well, it's been a month since i've gotten my car back from having the 1-2 synchronizer and second gear replaced. Well, the transmission has been acting up on me. It's very loud now, know matter what gear i'm in. I took it back to the transmission place i had it done and after them test driving it and quickly looking at it, they said they need the car back to find out what the problem is. You never get your car back the way you had it before when you have major work done to it. The mechanic who test drove it was like, "are you sure the transmission wasn't like this before you brought it to us?" I said to him, " i know my car and it wasn't sounding like this before!" So now i have to surrender my car again! and have the transmission looked at and fixed. This SUCKS!!!
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Deffinitely don't follow that mechanics suggestion about going 10k for oil changes. Go 5k at most and then change.

Are you having the transmission work done at a saab shop or one of those aamaco like places. I'd go with a saab shop if you weren't already.



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Well, it's been a month since i've gotten my car back from having the 1-2 synchronizer and second gear replaced. Well, the transmission has been acting up on me. It's very loud now, know matter what gear i'm in. I took it back to the transmission place i had it done and after them test driving it and quickly looking at it, they said they need the car back to find out what the problem is. You never get your car back the way you had it before when you have major work done to it. The mechanic who test drove it was like, "are you sure the transmission wasn't like this before you brought it to us?" I said to him, " i know my car and it wasn't sounding like this before!" So now i have to surrender my car again! and have the transmission looked at and fixed. This SUCKS!!!

Had my trnas rebuilt with an LSD and it is better than new after 15K miles. Did the mechanic that rebuild yours only use Saab MTF 0063? I can;t tell you enough how important that is...in fact may have saved you \the rebuild. I am not sure your car jsut didn;t need the new Trans oil from what you were saying...

Here is the service bulliten. Read the last line before the illustration of the transmission....

http://www.genuinesaab.com/psi/files/93-95man-oil.htm


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Deffinitely don't follow that mechanics suggestion about going 10k for oil changes. Go 5k at most and then change.

Are you having the transmission work done at a saab shop or one of those aamaco like places. I'd go with a saab shop if you weren't already.
X2 read about sludge, these cars have few design flaws that roast even sythetic after 5K miles. You better change it or if you thought the Trans issue was a problem...
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Are you having the transmission work done at a saab shop or one of those aamaco like places. I'd go with a saab shop if you weren't already.
I didn't have my trans done at a saab shop. The place i went to was recommended by my friend of mine who is a mechanic so i went there.

In a way, i don't want to be without a car for a week while they're fixing it, but another way i want to have the other gears replaced. 5th has been acting up on me...grinding sometimes, 4th makes this whining sound when engaged so i kinda want those gears replaced.

Who knows...jssaab might be right and it might just need the right MTF! I'll call the tranny place on monday and find out what kind of MTF they used to put in my car.
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I'd try and make sure the correct trans fluid is in there as its a cheaper route.

I know that the new saab gearboxes are standard off the shelf GM gearboxes now but it seems unless the place rebuilding the box is a saab specialty shop that these places don't understand the kind of torque we make stock and where in the RPM range. This leads them to being sloppy and possbily not checking there torque/pre-load settings and just being sloppy.



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I'd try and make sure the correct trans fluid is in there as its a cheaper route.

I know that the new saab gearboxes are standard off the shelf GM gearboxes now but it seems unless the place rebuilding the box is a saab specialty shop that these places don't understand the kind of torque we make stock and where in the RPM range. This leads them to being sloppy and possbily not checking there torque/pre-load settings and just being sloppy.
Yeah ya gotta load em up to the top of the recommended rage...


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I read that article and it said, "Beginning with the VIN's listed below, all 2002 Saab models with manual transmissions have factory fill with a new manual transmission fluid." I have a 2003. Might be a stupid question, but would i still use that if it's for 2002 models?
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Yes, 2002 and later. If you have an earlier model, you need to do the full flush to switch over.

Here is my transmission story:

I had some transmission issues, nothing serious but i just didn't like the way it shifted and it would be hard to get into first gear from a stop. After a few trips to the dealer, the service manager finally agreed there was a problem and agreed to replace the transmission under the Certified Pre-owned warranty, just before it expired. Saab shipped a whole new transmission and the dealer installed.

Since then I replace the gear fluid every spring (store the car in the winter) with the MTF 0063. Note the bottle from GM does not say MTF 0063 anymore but the dealer has a cross reference list and they ensured me it was the same.

No problems since...




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I read that article and it said, "Beginning with the VIN's listed below, all 2002 Saab models with manual transmissions have factory fill with a new manual transmission fluid." I have a 2003. Might be a stupid question, but would i still use that if it's for 2002 models?
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