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Old 11-21-2007, 06:30 PM   #1
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My 9-5 headache

I'll try to be brief but you know how rants go.

First of all, all total this car which I paid $4,800 for needs between $1,500 and $2,500 in work done to bring it up to good condition.

Things that need fixed.

PCV Update #6
$253.00

Oil PSW Leak
$100.00

Muffler - several holes in 10 in section, interior of muffler most likely rusted completely.
$400.00

Oil Pan Leak
$240.00

Hood Shocks - they seem fine to me so I don't know why they would need replaced.
$97.00

Program SID
$40

Wheels - one was severely bent and since they're aluminum it can't be fixed.
$90-105+ x4

I had the seller sign an agreement stating if my mechanic found any major problems the seller would remedy or buy back the car for the purchase price.

Before knowing about the wheels or the full cost of the muffler the guy was resistant to pay for anything. After finding out about the wheels and muffler I am going to do my best to get the guy to either give me at least $1,300 or buy back the car.

To me, 1/3 to 1/2 of the purchase price is major.

The car is awesome in spite of the problems, it is very comfortable, fast, and fun!
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I am calling bullshit they can fix aluminum rimz
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:54 PM   #3
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250 for pcv 6 is bull too its a 50 dollar kit. along with 400 for a muffler, i think you need a second opinion on those prices.



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I'll try to be brief but you know how rants go.

First of all, all total this car which I paid $4,800 for needs between $1,500 and $2,500 in work done to bring it up to good condition.

Things that need fixed.

PCV Update #6
$253.00

Oil PSW Leak
$100.00

Muffler - several holes in 10 in section, interior of muffler most likely rusted completely.
$400.00

Oil Pan Leak
$240.00

Hood Shocks - they seem fine to me so I don't know why they would need replaced.
$97.00

Program SID
$40

Wheels - one was severely bent and since they're aluminum it can't be fixed.
$90-105+ x4
Oh wow... yeah, next time you're near this mechanic and you drop something just kick it to safety before bending over to pick it up!

Check out eeuroparts.com for the exhaust stuff, it's super easy to do yourself if you have the ability to get the car somewhat airborne.

SID programming shouldn't command a $40 charge, that is dishonest business right there. It takes a tech all of 5 minutes to plug in the Tech-II, set parameters and flash the bastard.

PCV Update kits are cheap, and if you put your mind and hands to it, you can tackle it.

What sort of oil pan leak are we talking about here? Did some gorilla of a Quick-E-Lube "tech" overtighten the bolt and crack it? Used parts are abundant for this car if you do need a pan, otherwise the gasket is cheap and an afternoon and case of beer's worth of work to fix.

I'm not exactly what Oil PSW leak is all about, but look into it and let us know... one of us will have a solution for you that is cheaper than shelling out hard earned dollars on superfluous labor.

As for rims, just keep an eye on TSL classifieds, eBay and Craigslist... something intriguing is bound to come up.

Good luck! Owning a vintage 9-5 is a noble task at times, but so worth it.

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i agree, you need to check places like eeuroparts.com for other parts prices, although if thats what a dealer priced out for you, and your' not too willing to do it yourself, i'd say try to get the dealer you bought it from to either fix it all, or buy it back.
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if this is a dealer you are taking it to, they all sound like fair prices to me. just because you can get part X Y Z from eeuroparts for $100 does not mean that saab list price for the same part isn't $400 more.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:44 AM   #7
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I worked it out with the seller this evening, he's going to give me $700 back. That should cover the muffler and hopefully most of the cost of the wheels. (if anyone knows where to find some Fondmetal wheels let me know. If I could find the same kind I could just buy one matching wheel instead )

The rest of the stuff isn't as critical and I can take my time and also find cheaper ways to do it.

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250 for pcv 6 is bull too its a 50 dollar kit. along with 400 for a muffler, i think you need a second opinion on those prices.
I'll look at the sheet again, the mechanic wrote his notes of how much the parts cost on the sheet but I think there was a big difference between the cost of the PCV 6 and the end cost.
I did have a second opinion on the muffler. Midas quoted $398 so basically the same cost.

Don't worry guys, I'm not as dumb as I look I am.... wait a second...
I'm checking options to try and get the best and cheapest deal.


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Check out eeuroparts.com for the exhaust stuff, it's super easy to do yourself if you have the ability to get the car somewhat airborne
I thought you had to weld to install a muffler? I don't weld but I suppose I could have my cousin's husband help me if need be.

I can do a lot of stuff with cars as long as it doesn't take a welder or any diagnostic gadgets or removing the engine. If I can get to it I can do it. I'm not a mechanic but I can follow directions or see for myself.
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Another question, my fiancee's dad mentioned that since the muffler is (most likely) rusted out on the inside and the holes, it's possible the catalytic converter is bad. Is that right?
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for $700 you should be able to fix about EVERYTHING on that list.







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Old 11-22-2007, 02:22 AM   #10
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for $700 you should be able to fix about EVERYTHING on that list.







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Yeah I'll see. I did see mufflers much cheaper along with other stuff. It'll be nice if that's true.
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Why don't you look for an after market muffler? It's cheaper and would sound better. BTW, The original muffler only has two bolts holding it to the pipe and three rubber hangers holding it in place. Good luck. Nice car.
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Why don't you look for an after market muffler? It's cheaper and would sound better. BTW, The original muffler only has two bolts holding it to the pipe and three rubber hangers holding it in place. Good luck. Nice car.
Yeah I'm looking at that, looks like around $199-229 at eeuroparts.com (with or without chrome tip)


Does anyone know where I can find Fondmetal wheels for sale? I found out mine are Fondmetal 9A wheels, if I can find out where I can buy them and the price I could just buy a single wheel to replace my damaged one.

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Old 11-22-2007, 07:04 PM   #13
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Check those guys out.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:25 AM   #14
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Try these too:

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Old 11-27-2007, 12:21 PM   #15
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Yeah I got new wheels from Les Schwab (local and western US tire company) and also got a check from the seller of the Saab for $700 to compensate for some of the stuff. Next I need to get a muffler.
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250 for pcv 6 is bull too its a 50 dollar kit. along with 400 for a muffler, i think you need a second opinion on those prices.
By the time you replace all the hoses that are not included in the kit it can sometimes run close to that. The oil leaks might go away after fixing the PVC system. Keep in mind the muffler has a lifetime warranty also. And it fits well and doesn't rattle when installed corectly. There are many places that can fix the aloy wheels also.
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The entire exhaust system is held together by clamps so getting the mufflers is cheap be it OEM or upgrade. Check out Nicks site, genuinesaab.com, for a good aftermarket system that will sound nice.

Wheels you can get taken care of via vikingwheels.com, think thats the name of the site. They are a Saab wheel business.

Edit: somebody pointed out vikingwheel already.



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nice exhaust, it's clamp-on, no welding.

There are other clamp-on exhausts that are cheaper and nicer the the OEM.

And stuff like hatch shocks...those are about 5min to do both if you do them yourself.
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nice exhaust, it's clamp-on, no welding.

There are other clamp-on exhausts that are cheaper and nicer the the OEM.

And stuff like hatch shocks...those are about 5min to do both if you do them yourself.
Thanks, I don't need a full cat-back exhaust, only the rear muffler. I found a couple on eeuroparts.com that look nice. $199 w/o chrome tip, $229 w/ aero style chrome tip.
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