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ACBarnett · 02-19-2007, 07:14 PM

so my manual transmission 9-5 has developed this problem where reverse engages only intermittently, usually when the car is rolling backwards. Otherwise it the stick won't move into the gate, and it feels like something is blocking it. When it does engage it does so smoothly and, and pushing the lever into 5th to re-align the dog teeth doesen't do anything (I'm guessing the shafts are paired 1st-2nd, 3rd-4th, and 5th-reverse, and when one of the first 4 doesen't engage moving it into the opposite gate always fixes it). Does this sound like a transmission issue or a shift linkage issue?

FreStylMotox01 · 02-20-2007, 04:06 AM

one thing to try to ease the shifting would be the GS poly tranny mount. it is pretty nice, once i installed it, i had less problems getting into my gears and reverse.

NahumCC · 02-20-2007, 01:34 PM

Make sure your pulling up on the reverse lock all the way. Not intended as an insult but I've found myself unable to get into reverse only to have the lock out not pulled up all the way. Also supposedly putting it into 3rd then going to reverse helps.......can't remember were I saw that.

WyldSaabMan · 02-20-2007, 02:15 PM

first thing i would try is definetly aligning the shift linkage.

plus its only a 10 minute procedure...if that

StX221 · 02-20-2007, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WyldSaabMan

first thing i would try is definetly aligning the shift linkage.

plus its only a 10 minute procedure...if that

x2. i would say that 85% of shifting issues are solved by a re-alignment.
and the rest are solved by either a new trans, or an update to the MTF0063.

drewz airflow se · 02-20-2007, 06:46 PM

Take my advice take care of this now because i didn't and my reverse gear is non existent now.

StX221 · 02-20-2007, 06:54 PM

yeah i didnt take care of 2nd gear and it disappeared.
....oh wait, it was the transmission that went in. (it was bad to start)

ACBarnett · 02-24-2007, 05:29 PM

well by "intermittent" I meant that it only goes in when the car is rolling backwards, and while there is no grinding whatsoever and it goes into reverse nice and smoothly, it still only goes in when the car is rolling backwards.

My mech checked the linkage and said he saw something out of whack, but that it didn't fix the problem when he fixed it. He's not a saab specialist though so it might still be an issue that's outside of the box.

I'm just curious about where the parts I would have to play with to align the shift linkage and where they are located on the car. I'm also wondering what sorts of issues inside the box would cause reverse to only engage when the car is rolling backwards. It feels like the shifter is being blocked from going into the reverse gate by something.

SPG-GASM · 02-24-2007, 05:56 PM

we have a car that has the same problem at the shop we have realinged the linkage many a time and still no diference and we have also replaced the tranny with rebuild 2 was grinding and still the same problem, i beleive we have replaced the linkage also and still no difference i would have to say that it is a mount problem trans is sitting at just the wrong angle that it wont allow the linkage to pull it into reverse but im not for certain but like ferstyl said early and i beleive reverse is on its own shaft inside the trans also another area could be the actual gear changing mechanism inside the tranny(shifter forks) but i havent seen any problem with those but who knows

GenuineSaab · 02-26-2007, 06:08 AM

The trans mount is not magic and will only help with the shifting under load because of binding. I wish it was the case.

Sounds like you have a reverse syncro problem. There is a factory kit to address this.

http://www.genuinesaab.com/psi/files...ans-update.htm

ACBarnett · 03-03-2007, 05:25 PM

know anything about 5th gear failing on these transmissions? I had my second gearbox failure in 2 months and it started again with 5th failing.

02-19-2007, 07:14 PM	#1
ACBarnett Avid TSL User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 213	manual tranny problem, reverse engages only intermittently so my manual transmission 9-5 has developed this problem where reverse engages only intermittently, usually when the car is rolling backwards. Otherwise it the stick won't move into the gate, and it feels like something is blocking it. When it does engage it does so smoothly and, and pushing the lever into 5th to re-align the dog teeth doesen't do anything (I'm guessing the shafts are paired 1st-2nd, 3rd-4th, and 5th-reverse, and when one of the first 4 doesen't engage moving it into the opposite gate always fixes it). Does this sound like a transmission issue or a shift linkage issue?

02-20-2007, 01:34 PM	#3
NahumCC Elder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 9,197	Make sure your pulling up on the reverse lock all the way. Not intended as an insult but I've found myself unable to get into reverse only to have the lock out not pulled up all the way. Also supposedly putting it into 3rd then going to reverse helps.......can't remember were I saw that. __________________ 2013 FR-S To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-20-2007, 02:15 PM	#4
WyldSaabMan Elder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fancy Connecticut Posts: 3,059	first thing i would try is definetly aligning the shift linkage. plus its only a 10 minute procedure...if that __________________ 99 Saab 9-3se Imola Red 90 Saab 900 SPG Talladega red 88 Saab Powered Jeep Wrangler - 1999 Saab 2.0l T5 04 Yamaha YZF600R 00 Polaris XC700 99 Saab 9-3-RIP 98 900s N/A-RIP

02-20-2007, 06:46 PM	#6
drewz airflow se Elder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OHIO Posts: 8,107	Take my advice take care of this now because i didn't and my reverse gear is non existent now. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ^CLICK ME^

02-20-2007, 06:54 PM	#7
StX221 Elder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greater Portland, ME Posts: 4,295	yeah i didnt take care of 2nd gear and it disappeared. ....oh wait, it was the transmission that went in. (it was bad to start) __________________ Time for a comeback tour? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. '02 9-5 Aero '05 Yamaha R6

02-20-2007, 04:06 AM	#2
FreStylMotox01 Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Charlestown, NH Posts: 602	one thing to try to ease the shifting would be the GS poly tranny mount. it is pretty nice, once i installed it, i had less problems getting into my gears and reverse.

02-24-2007, 05:29 PM	#8
ACBarnett Avid TSL User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 213	well by "intermittent" I meant that it only goes in when the car is rolling backwards, and while there is no grinding whatsoever and it goes into reverse nice and smoothly, it still only goes in when the car is rolling backwards. My mech checked the linkage and said he saw something out of whack, but that it didn't fix the problem when he fixed it. He's not a saab specialist though so it might still be an issue that's outside of the box. I'm just curious about where the parts I would have to play with to align the shift linkage and where they are located on the car. I'm also wondering what sorts of issues inside the box would cause reverse to only engage when the car is rolling backwards. It feels like the shifter is being blocked from going into the reverse gate by something.

02-24-2007, 05:56 PM	#9
SPG-GASM Live, eat, and sleep by TSL Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Iowa City, IA Posts: 1,240	we have a car that has the same problem at the shop we have realinged the linkage many a time and still no diference and we have also replaced the tranny with rebuild 2 was grinding and still the same problem, i beleive we have replaced the linkage also and still no difference i would have to say that it is a mount problem trans is sitting at just the wrong angle that it wont allow the linkage to pull it into reverse but im not for certain but like ferstyl said early and i beleive reverse is on its own shaft inside the trans also another area could be the actual gear changing mechanism inside the tranny(shifter forks) but i havent seen any problem with those but who knows

02-26-2007, 06:08 AM	#10
GenuineSaab Nick Taliaferro Elder Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Springfield, MO USA Posts: 3,232	The trans mount is not magic and will only help with the shifting under load because of binding. I wish it was the case. Sounds like you have a reverse syncro problem. There is a factory kit to address this. http://www.genuinesaab.com/psi/files...ans-update.htm __________________ Nicholas Taliaferro To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2.0 GOOSE 500whp + 8500rpm = 11.06 @125 E85 Viggen 439whp / 447tq 12.43 @114 on Gt2871.64, (Now 511whp Gt3076) Nordic E85 9-3 SS Aero 320hp / 350ftlbs

03-03-2007, 05:25 PM	#11
ACBarnett Avid TSL User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 213	know anything about 5th gear failing on these transmissions? I had my second gearbox failure in 2 months and it started again with 5th failing.

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