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Old 04-04-2014, 10:05 PM   #1
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2.3 rwd :)

hey there everyone..

I havent been on here in a while.. I know ..I've been slack .

Ive really got into cycling again. And I'm the fittest Ive ever been. Which is really not that fit.lool

I still got my Talladega stage 5 ,and its still going strong.

Anyway................

I'm getting my hands on a RWD Toyota celica..old skool model.
And I have a 2.3 turbo motor sitting in my Garage..

I'm having thoughts of throwing the 2.3 in the celica.

Has anyone got any ideas on how I would go about mounting the 2.3 , in a "nth,sth" set up?

I know you can get a bell housing to suit RWD . I just need a couple of ideas on how I would make up the engine mounts to suit.

any Idea?

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Old 04-05-2014, 09:20 AM   #2
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Dude, that would be an awesome project. I can't speak from experience but I don't think making custom brackets for the motor mounts would be too hard. The problem with this sort of project is shit just adds up. If you need a custom intake manifold, exhaust manifold, ect, that becomes a lot of work. My advice would be to take really good measurements and really get a good idea of what will be need to be custom made to make the motor fit and go from there.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:13 PM   #4
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I have no doubt I can do it.. It will run easy 10,s too .

Its always nice to look at a picture of one already done..

I'm thinking of running a tricked up auto box behind it too... but that could change.

Edit: Scrap the Auto box idea...

I'm going to run a borg warner T5 5 speed box.. hehehe
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:50 PM   #5
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Wow... I found an excellent thread..

UKSaabs • View topic - BMW Touring build with Saab power
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Awesome, I love wagons... BM 3 series with SAABpower and RWD, OMFG that must be insane
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so you are going the opel trans bellhousing route?
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:34 AM   #8
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so you are going the opel trans bellhousing route?
If you mean this one .. Yes.

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Old 05-21-2014, 03:44 AM   #9
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Quick update:

The car comes this weekend,....

1984 Celica ra60... * I got it for free *

I'll start a new thread this weekend...
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:54 AM   #10
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Engine mounts are easy, can be as simple as pieces of tubing with plates welded to the end sitting on hockey pucks. Look at some of the 16-valved 99 threads on SaabRally.com. They can be made of boxed sheet steel too.

Just hang the engine in the engine compartment from a hoist and get it to sit right, and just connect the dots from suitable places on the block to the stock mounting points under the hood.
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Old 05-24-2014, 05:22 PM   #11
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instead of starting a new thread i'll just stay here...

Here is the car,.....





And just for shits and giggles I pulled a couple of bearing caps of my 2.3 to see what sort of condition they were in.. They looked excellent.




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Old 05-24-2014, 05:31 PM   #12
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I'm meeting with the lead engineer from the roads authority over here on Thursday... @ $200 bucks per hour too .....

He will tell me all the specs I have to do to make this legal..


I'm really going to need the help of all you smart guys out there on this build... (you know who you are).. and there is lots of smart guys on this forum.

Please share your wisdom with me...
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The way to make it legal is to not tell the authorities what you've done...
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Old 05-24-2014, 05:53 PM   #14
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The way to make it legal is to not tell the authorities what you've done...
hahaha...yeah I know

I'm going to leave the 2.3 standard till everything passes inspections..Then pull the 2.3 out and work it over...(pistons ,cams ,head work) and slap a massive turbo on it

I need an engineers certificate for the basic mods ... For road registration .
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I just got my shell for my RWD Saab project. Seems to be a couple guys embarking on this adventure, should be fun to see everyone's results .
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:52 AM   #16
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I'll complete this ... for sure..

The only thing holding me back..is my lack of knowledge..lool

so this is a learning experience.. But I am good with a spanner.

I'm going to need help along the way from all the experts out there..

I'll let you drive it if you help me...
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Oh my god bogan I spent my teen years driving one of those slideways.
I got more tang in that thing than you can imagine. I went from those to a Porsche. Then back to nice safe Saab's. You need to find a Z speck Borg Werner t5. They came in sierra cosworths & early 80's turbo280 Z's. The Opel / Saab bell housing from the UK has no previsions for a throw out bearing or slave. I soursed a mustang concentric slave & a 2.3 turbo clutch from a us ford turbo 2.3 mustang or t bitd fits in the Saab pressure plate flywheel sandwich. Subscribed
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Old 05-26-2014, 01:33 AM   #18
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Over here in OZ we have T5 boxes in Holden Commodores and I think some ford falcons..

I used this list .. Borg-Warner T-5 transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can I use a Holden Commodores T5 ????
They are very easy to get here.

And I am also I bit confused about the slave cylinder issue you said..
What do you mean that the bell housing has no provisions for a throw out or slave?

You may have to "dumb it down" for me..lool

Glad to have you on-board Harvey
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Oh, this is going to be good. Looking forward to updates!
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #20
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well... I went to the Road and traffic authority engineer yesterday.
I spent nearly an hour and half in there . Most of it was talking bullshit, like Tyre sizes and windscreen demisters. In the end I told him that every second car on the road is illegal, he said that's what keeps him in business....... Anyway, I can do the mods I want to do without any major drama.. (phew). I just have to keep everything as stock as possible till it all gets passed.he cost me $250 bucks just to talk . I didn't have the heart to tell him that as soon as it gets passed I'm putting a turbo on it the size of a bowling ball. And painting it to look like the General lee...loool
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