Service Theft Alarm. Alarm constantly going off.

Chapel · 08-20-2006, 04:45 PM

So, recently I've been getting 'Service Theft Alarm' warnings on the SID and even MORE recently, the alarm has been going off constantly.
I've had it go off right in front of me and hitting buttons on the fob does nothing.
There's no fuse to pull to make it stop and I can guarantee I'm going to get a citation from my apartment complex for disturbing the peace at night.
I think if I don't arm it or lock the car, it won't go off, but that's no way to go.

HELP!

Johnz826 · 08-20-2006, 04:59 PM

You could disconnect the battery at night till u take it to the dealer ship to have it fixed, It may be a pain to keep doin that everynight but that's the only thing i can think of.

StX221 · 08-20-2006, 05:01 PM

try this. next time you go to get out of the car, shut it off and take out the key. then hold the night panel button and change the setting.

see if that makes a difference.

stromer · 08-20-2006, 05:10 PM

When that message came up on my SID the batteries inside the siren had to be replaced. Trouble is the dealer said that the entire siren had to be replaced. It was covered under certification for me though so it wasn't such a big deal.

I'm not sure if the message can mean other components in the alarm need to be checked.

BurnsSide42 · 08-20-2006, 05:10 PM

You need a battery for the alarm system - which is the siren/battery in the drivers wheel well area - it's not a hard fix, but a common one for a 9-5

DriverEd · 08-20-2006, 05:51 PM

Here's a DIY guide for the battery replacement. I'm also going to do this soon, but mine's not going sounding that often so I'm putting it off.
http://home.datacomm.ch/saeuberli/fi..._batteries.pdf

Chapel · 08-21-2006, 04:17 AM

any way to disable the alarm until I get time to do it?

friggin viggen · 08-21-2006, 09:16 AM

using the night panel button with the key out i think

Chapel · 08-21-2006, 01:28 PM

okie. lets see
reeeeeally don't want to get a citation...

Aero02 · 08-21-2006, 02:45 PM

if you use the keyhole to lock the door it doesnt set the alarm.

Chapel · 08-21-2006, 05:02 PM

Actually, tried that last night
the alarm still went off
haven't heard it today.

StX221 · 08-21-2006, 05:09 PM

USE THE NIGHT PANEL BUTTON WHEN YOU TAKE THE KEY OUT!

and yes i meant for caps lock.
that will shut off the alarm!

dotnetman · 12-29-2007, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StX221

try this. next time you go to get out of the car, shut it off and take out the key. then hold the night panel button and change the setting.

see if that makes a difference.

I am having the same problem where the alarm goes off randomly and hitting the key fob does not turn it off. I don't understand what this night panel button do in regard to the alarm? Can you please provide more specifics on what can be done?

StX221 · 12-29-2007, 02:37 PM

Wow. you are making me think now. I think if I remember right, take the key out, then hold the night panel button and it will allow you to change a couple things for the alarm settings.

dotnetman · 12-30-2007, 10:19 AM

I am a little confused on how the alarm system works. The 9-5 SE manual implies that the alarm system works without the main 12v battery. Thus if a thief disconnects the battery, the alarm is still active.
So confusion #1 is that a couple of people on this forum have suggested simply disconnecting the main battery will stop the alarm.

Confusion #2 is what would cause the alarm to go off on its own if the alarm lithium batteries (Sanyo CR17335) are weak and need to be replaced? You would think with all the OBD2 codes and SID panel reporting that low alarm batteries would be a reportable item.

jssaab · 12-30-2007, 12:35 PM

COnfusiton #1, no it will not stop the alarm

Confusion #2. When the alarm batteries are low, you will often get service theft alarm on the SID. It will not differentiate whether it is the batteries or another issue. To be sure you will need a TECH II to diagnose. So some people change the batteries when they get the SID notifiaciton and still have an issue. That is becsuae it prolly was not the Batteries in the first place.

Best bet is to check with a TECH II to make sure weak bateries are the problem ( but it is such an easy fix, most people will just try it sans techII diagnosis.)

TEh random alarm issue coems from the weak batteries since the sytem detech a reset as the voltage drops ( not often at night as it gets cooler)

dotnetman · 12-30-2007, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jssaab

COnfusiton #1, no it will not stop the alarm

Confusion #2. When the alarm batteries are low, you will often get service theft alarm on the SID. It will not differentiate whether it is the batteries or another issue. To be sure you will need a TECH II to diagnose. So some people change the batteries when they get the SID notifiaciton and still have an issue. That is becsuae it prolly was not the Batteries in the first place.

Best bet is to check with a TECH II to make sure weak bateries are the problem ( but it is such an easy fix, most people will just try it sans techII diagnosis.)

TEh random alarm issue coems from the weak batteries since the sytem detech a reset as the voltage drops ( not often at night as it gets cooler)

Thank you for the clarification. For what it is worth, in my case I have not seen any display on the SID in regard to the alarm. What I have seen (or heard) is an occasional sounding of the alarm for a few seconds as it simply sits in my driveway. However yesterday the alarm went off for real (loud and persistent). The alarm did not seem to stop when I unlocked the doors. This happened twice in close chronological sequence. That was when I disconnected the battery and also unlocked my doors and left it unlocked overnight.

Also what is a TECH II? I assume this is some sort of ODB2 device that the dealer would have?

jssaab · 01-01-2008, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotnetman

Thank you for the clarification. For what it is worth, in my case I have not seen any display on the SID in regard to the alarm. What I have seen (or heard) is an occasional sounding of the alarm for a few seconds as it simply sits in my driveway. However yesterday the alarm went off for real (loud and persistent). The alarm did not seem to stop when I unlocked the doors. This happened twice in close chronological sequence. That was when I disconnected the battery and also unlocked my doors and left it unlocked overnight.

Also what is a TECH II? I assume this is some sort of ODB2 device that the dealer would have?

Yes the TECH II Does OBDII Reading and a lot more. It connects to SAAB OBD and controls. It can change adjustments like having doors lock automatically at 7 mph , number of beeps from the alam when locking doors, program new keys and so on...

Yes it sounds like batteries in the alarm unit. Take tit out, solder in new batteries and you should be good to go. You could take it to the dealer and have them Diagnose the Alarm and see what they say. If it tells them Batteries are weak they will tell you to repalce the unit, pay them for the tech II time - my dealer does not ussually make me pay, take it home and repalce the battteries. Make sure they tell uyou what it says it will say weak alarm batteis but they might not tell you since they are "not" replacable...

Kad · 01-03-2008, 01:27 PM

i did replace batteries but it did not help , alarm go of anyway like once a day for 2-3 seconds, and my remote control stop working to!!!!

jssaab · 01-03-2008, 01:45 PM

So, you rplaced the batteries in the speaker box? There may be another fault in the wiring or something, you might be able to get it diagnised with a tech ii to see if there is another fault.

SOem people find that after replacing batteries they did not have enough power ( old batteries off the shelf) to work correctly. Did you check the voltage and current of the "new" batteries.

08-20-2006, 05:01 PM	#3
StX221 Elder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greater Portland, ME Posts: 4,292	try this. next time you go to get out of the car, shut it off and take out the key. then hold the night panel button and change the setting. see if that makes a difference. __________________ Time for a comeback tour? http://www.nesaab.org/forum '02 9-5 Aero '05 Yamaha R6

08-20-2006, 05:10 PM	#4
stromer Elder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Falmouth, Maine Posts: 5,987	When that message came up on my SID the batteries inside the siren had to be replaced. Trouble is the dealer said that the entire siren had to be replaced. It was covered under certification for me though so it wasn't such a big deal. I'm not sure if the message can mean other components in the alarm need to be checked. __________________ 2 Saabs, 3 Chevrolets and a Suzuki.

08-20-2006, 05:51 PM	#6
DriverEd SAABeginner Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 19	Here's a DIY guide for the battery replacement. I'm also going to do this soon, but mine's not going sounding that often so I'm putting it off. http://home.datacomm.ch/saeuberli/fi..._batteries.pdf __________________ Ed 2000 Saab 9-5 Wagon LPT 2004 Mazda 3 Sport GT

08-21-2006, 04:17 AM	#7
Chapel Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beverly MA, USA Posts: 530	any way to disable the alarm until I get time to do it? __________________ 1995 Audi S6

08-21-2006, 09:16 AM	#8
friggin viggen Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 465	using the night panel button with the key out i think __________________ Stärka = NVIGR8 = To impart vigor, strength, or vitality to 6/3/06 - 224whp/285wtq

08-20-2006, 04:45 PM	#1
Chapel Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beverly MA, USA Posts: 530	Service Theft Alarm. Alarm constantly going off. So, recently I've been getting 'Service Theft Alarm' warnings on the SID and even MORE recently, the alarm has been going off constantly. I've had it go off right in front of me and hitting buttons on the fob does nothing. There's no fuse to pull to make it stop and I can guarantee I'm going to get a citation from my apartment complex for disturbing the peace at night. I think if I don't arm it or lock the car, it won't go off, but that's no way to go. HELP! __________________ 1995 Audi S6

08-20-2006, 04:59 PM	#2
Johnz826 Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 433	You could disconnect the battery at night till u take it to the dealer ship to have it fixed, It may be a pain to keep doin that everynight but that's the only thing i can think of. __________________ SAAB like no other!!! status: Engine died, car sold

08-21-2006, 01:28 PM	#9
Chapel Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beverly MA, USA Posts: 530	okie. lets see reeeeeally don't want to get a citation... __________________ 1995 Audi S6

08-21-2006, 02:45 PM	#10
Aero02 Live, eat, and sleep by TSL Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,857	if you use the keyhole to lock the door it doesnt set the alarm.

08-21-2006, 05:02 PM	#11
Chapel Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beverly MA, USA Posts: 530	Actually, tried that last night the alarm still went off haven't heard it today. __________________ 1995 Audi S6

08-21-2006, 05:09 PM	#12
StX221 Elder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greater Portland, ME Posts: 4,292	USE THE NIGHT PANEL BUTTON WHEN YOU TAKE THE KEY OUT! and yes i meant for caps lock. that will shut off the alarm! __________________ Time for a comeback tour? http://www.nesaab.org/forum '02 9-5 Aero '05 Yamaha R6

12-29-2007, 02:37 PM	#14
StX221 Elder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greater Portland, ME Posts: 4,292	Wow. you are making me think now. I think if I remember right, take the key out, then hold the night panel button and it will allow you to change a couple things for the alarm settings. __________________ Time for a comeback tour? http://www.nesaab.org/forum '02 9-5 Aero '05 Yamaha R6

12-30-2007, 10:19 AM	#15
dotnetman SAABeginner Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3	I am a little confused on how the alarm system works. The 9-5 SE manual implies that the alarm system works without the main 12v battery. Thus if a thief disconnects the battery, the alarm is still active. So confusion #1 is that a couple of people on this forum have suggested simply disconnecting the main battery will stop the alarm. Confusion #2 is what would cause the alarm to go off on its own if the alarm lithium batteries (Sanyo CR17335) are weak and need to be replaced? You would think with all the OBD2 codes and SID panel reporting that low alarm batteries would be a reportable item.

12-30-2007, 12:35 PM	#16
jssaab Elder Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,574	COnfusiton #1, no it will not stop the alarm Confusion #2. When the alarm batteries are low, you will often get service theft alarm on the SID. It will not differentiate whether it is the batteries or another issue. To be sure you will need a TECH II to diagnose. So some people change the batteries when they get the SID notifiaciton and still have an issue. That is becsuae it prolly was not the Batteries in the first place. Best bet is to check with a TECH II to make sure weak bateries are the problem ( but it is such an easy fix, most people will just try it sans techII diagnosis.) TEh random alarm issue coems from the weak batteries since the sytem detech a reset as the voltage drops ( not often at night as it gets cooler) __________________

01-03-2008, 01:27 PM	#19
Kad Avid TSL User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sarasota,FL Posts: 163	i did replace batteries but it did not help , alarm go of anyway like once a day for 2-3 seconds, and my remote control stop working to!!!!

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01-03-2008, 01:45 PM	#20
jssaab Elder Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,574	So, you rplaced the batteries in the speaker box? There may be another fault in the wiring or something, you might be able to get it diagnised with a tech ii to see if there is another fault. SOem people find that after replacing batteries they did not have enough power ( old batteries off the shelf) to work correctly. Did you check the voltage and current of the "new" batteries. __________________